Sweden Now Has 55 No-Go Zones

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  1. Plutonius macrumors 604

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    This article shows how things are getting pretty bad in Sweden with the no-go zones. Swedish police are quitting at an escalating rate and even people from Somalia are calling it a war zone and are considering leaving. It's even been suggested that Sweden should ceed some territory to solve the problem.

    - Does anyone here agree with no-go zones ?

    - How should Sweden deal with the crisis ?
     
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  5. Plutonius thread starter macrumors 604

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    I would say it doesn't matter if it's muslim or not. Any area that police will not enter will be subject to crime / violence.

    Back to the original question. Regardless of who is in them, do you think that no-go zones are a good idea ?
     
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    I would say you can't accept the reality that "No Go Zones" are a fantasy talking point that has been debunked for every country the echo chamber tries to pin them to.
     
  7. A.Goldberg macrumors 68020

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    I'm more concerned about the No-Zones more than the No-Go Zones.



    I'm glad this quality song has not been lost to the dusty shelf of a driver's ed classroom and can live forever online.
     
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  9. MarkusL macrumors 6502

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    Oh Lord, this **** again.

    Swedish police has compiled a report about 55 "areas where crime has a negative influence on the local society". These areas are being marketed by Swedish nazis as no-go zones, and it has caught on in the media in various places around the world.

    As it happens, I live in one of these areas. Ask your questions!

    One question I anticipate is if the police dares to enter these zones. And my answer is yes, police officers come to work daily at the police station in the area where I live.
     
  10. impulse462 macrumors 68000

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    I have a question. Does Sweden have as many beautiful women as I keep hearing about? Or is it a myth
     
  11. MarkusL macrumors 6502

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    Norway is better.
     
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    Ah Bretbart, doing everything it can to win the position of Trump's official propaganda department.
     
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    You might as well ask if the Enterprise should keep going to the Neutral Zone.
     
  14. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    What's it like living in a war zone?

    Have you developed PTSD?
     
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    I just read through the Swedish article from today's Expressen here and was about to post something along these lines. There's nothing in the article to suggest that police won't enter these areas. On the contrary, the 55 areas are described as difficult to work in and are described in such a way that it's clear that police ARE working in those areas.

    I don't live there (I live in neighboring Norway and am in Sweden watching the Swedish evening news as I write this post) so I can't answer nearly as well as @MarkusL, but I wanted to support what he's saying.
     
  16. MarkusL macrumors 6502

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    I didn't even know I did, until I read the report. I took a look at it because I suspected that the area I lived in when I was a student might be on the list, and it turned out I had lived in five of them... but some of them more than a decade before the report was written, so I don't know the current state of affairs there.
     
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    Isn't it amazing that these people continue to further neo-nazi propaganda?
     
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    Funny how it's the Trumpets who buy this crap. There is only one no-go zone in the world and it only applies to one person...1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and Donald Trump.
     
  19. MarkusL macrumors 6502

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    I think accidents happen more easily when foreign media report on this, since a lack of familiarity with Swedish media and propaganda sites will be an obstacle to proper evaluation of sources.

    I'm more disappointed in Svenska Dagbladet, one of Sweden's largest newspapers. Their editorial board has made an effort to popularize the "no-go zones" moniker, although their other rhetoric and descriptions of what goes on in these areas are toned down compared to the nazi sites. And I think the supposed reputability of SvD has helped spread the myth abroad.
     
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    This is no accident. Just a complete fabrication from right wing "media".
     
  21. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I agree. There's a certain level of reasonable doubt that should creep into someone's mind when they read something like this. Passing it along as news or fact—without substantiation—is an abdication of responsibility and rationality.
     
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    Your graphic forgot Pepe the frog.

    Spot on otherwise.
     
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    Many people in the US get Norway and Sweden confused. That's perhaps understandable because they were politically joined for almost a century. It's not so understandable now since they split apart in 1905.

    Sweden gives us Volvo (and formerly Saab) cars. It also gave us ABBA, Ace of Base, and to this day has an outsize influence on popular music. Lisbeth Salander the (fictional) Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was Swedish. So was (fictional) detective Kurt Wallander. Contrary to what these books might suggest, murder is not really any more of a big problem in Sweden than it is in (fictional) Inspector Morse's Oxford. Swedish sports stars, of which there are many, include Bjorn Borg and Stefan Edberg.

    Sweden also gives Ikea, which got its start in 1943, a time when most of the rest of Europe was busy slaughtering itself. Sweden stayed officially neutral during WWII, which was probably a good idea for the Swedes at the time. But it still leads to complaints about collaborating with Nazis. Which did in fact happen, as the Nazis got a lot of their iron ore from Sweden.

    In case you were wondering about this, oddball singer Bjork comes from neither Sweden nor Norway. She's from Iceland.

    Geographically, Sweden is the big wide country on the eastern (right) side of the peninsula that hangs over western Europe.

    Its neighbor Norway is the relatively skinny bit along the west coast. Norway has fjords. Norway is also a very rich country, because there is a lot of oil in the North Sea, and this is mostly owned by the Norwegian Government. The money it earns is used to fund one of the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world. Norway is socialism done right. Its capital, Oslo, is one of the most frighteningly expensive places I've ever visited.

    Sweden and Norway have different languages: Swedish and Norwegian. However, they are linguistically very similar and they are generally mutually intelligible. Meaning a Swede can go to Norway and understand pretty much everything that is said to them. I'd guess that a Texan travelling to Glasgow in Scotland would have a harder time understanding the natives than a Swede vacationing in Oslo. In any case, since most Norwegians and Swedes are at least passably fluent in English, it's all immaterial to us Yanks and Brits.
     
  24. impulse462 macrumors 68000

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    who got norway and sweden confused here?
     
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    Oh yea, but not nearly as many as
    Iceland. Keep that on the down-low. It's a virtually untapped resource. o_O
     

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