T-Mobile iPhone 6 and 6+ work on Verizon with CDMA and AT&T

Hal~9000

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For it to work on Verizon you need an already activated Verizon SIM from what I understand of the threads already posted about this topic.
 

terraphantm

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For it to work on Verizon you need an already activated Verizon SIM from what I understand of the threads already posted about this topic.
The exception seems to be if you get a genius bar replacement. At least that's my assumption based on Verizon recognizing the IMEI of my AT&T 6.
 

ToroidalZeus

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Well I have a T mobile 6 coming tomorrow. Have a verizon sim. Should I take the T mobile sim out then put Verizon sim in and turn on?
How did you purchase it? Usually it's best [or required] to activate the phone with the sim inside.
 

zox2003

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Both models (verizon and tmobile) are the same model and have CDMA enabled... So not surprise ... I am using 6 Plus on tmobile without any issues
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rui no onna

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The exception seems to be if you get a genius bar replacement. At least that's my assumption based on Verizon recognizing the IMEI of my AT&T 6.
Question, what model does it say in Settings > General > About and what are the first 5 digits of the IMEI/MEID? Thanks!

Just unlocked my ATT 6+ and moved my SIM card from VZW 5c. Everything works great. However, on VZW activation page it still says:
"The phone associated with the Device ID you entered is not compatible with the Verizon Wireless network."
 

terraphantm

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Question, what model does it say in Settings > General > About and what are the first 5 digits of the IMEI/MEID? Thanks!

Just unlocked my ATT 6+ and moved my SIM card from VZW 5c. Everything works great. However, on VZW activation page it still says:
"The phone associated with the Device ID you entered is not compatible with the Verizon Wireless network."
First 5 are 35440
 

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Question, what model does it say in Settings > General > About and what are the first 5 digits of the IMEI/MEID? Thanks!

Just unlocked my ATT 6+ and moved my SIM card from VZW 5c. Everything works great. However, on VZW activation page it still says:
"The phone associated with the Device ID you entered is not compatible with the Verizon Wireless network."

Yeah, regardless Verizon won't recognize the device in their database. When I put my Verizon sim into a unlocked 6 plus from AT&T. Everything is working great just like on my iPhone 6 on Verizon.
On my Verizon, it will come up as non vzw device. Both the AT&T and Verizon devices I have both start with 35438
I know one issue that be a problem for some people, if they are using a unlocked iPhone 6 or 6 plus on Verizon would be if you have insurance on your Verizon account, if you ever wanted to do claim if you're in that type situation, you'll have hard time proving you're using an iPhone.

What I really want to see is come February, when Sprint unlocks their devices for domestic, will their iPhone 6/6 plus also work on Verizon just like the AT&T and T-Mobile devices that are unlocked.
 
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rui no onna

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First 5 are 35440
Thanks! And what does it report for the model (e.g. MGAU2LL/A)? I remember someone mentioning that replacements have the same model number for ATT/TMo/VZW. If so, it's possible VZW has all IMEI/MEID of replacement devices on their database. Hmm, wonder if I should just take my iPhone out of its case now. The only reason I haven't damaged it yet is because of the case. :p
 
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terraphantm

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Thanks! And what does it report for the model (e.g. MGAU2LL/A)? I remember someone mentioning that replacements have the same model number for ATT/TMo/VZW. If so, it's possible VZW has all IMEI/MEID of replacement devices on their database. Hmm, wonder if I should just take my iPhone out of its case now. The only reason I haven't damaged it yet is because of the case. :p
Mine is MG312LL/A
 

terraphantm

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Question, what model does it say in Settings > General > About and what are the first 5 digits of the IMEI/MEID? Thanks!

Just unlocked my ATT 6+ and moved my SIM card from VZW 5c. Everything works great. However, on VZW activation page it still says:
"The phone associated with the Device ID you entered is not compatible with the Verizon Wireless network."
I just got a T-mobile 6 plus replaced by the genius bar for a dead pixel, and the replacement also shows up as a valid VZW device now. I think it's probably the case that all of the A1522 and A1549 replacement/refurb models are in Verizon's database. Also goes to show that Verizon has no technical reason for disallowing the non-VZW phones when Apple doesn't bother differentiating between them.

On the receipt, the replacement iPhone is listed as this: iPhone 6 Plus, MM, 128GB, Space Gray, CI/AR

I also saw someone getting a Sprint 6 plus replaced while I was there, and the box the replacement came in said "MM-TD" instead of just "MM"
 

rui no onna

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I On the receipt, the replacement iPhone is listed as this: iPhone 6 Plus, MM, 128GB, Space Gray, CI/AR

I also saw someone getting a Sprint 6 plus replaced while I was there, and the box the replacement came in said "MM-TD" instead of just "MM"
Thanks for this! MM likely means Multi-Mode (as per their activation policy). I'm curious to know if the MM-TD is actually the Sprint A1586 model (with TD-LTE). Curious, what model number does it report in General, Settings, About? Thanks! :)
 

terraphantm

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Thanks for this! MM likely means Multi-Mode (as per their activation policy). I'm curious to know if the MM-TD is actually the Sprint A1586 model (with TD-LTE). Curious, what model number does it report in General, Settings, About? Thanks! :)
Yeah, the MM-TD is almost certainly the A1524/A1586 model. I do have to wonder which version the SIM free versions will be when they start selling them.

My replacement shows as NGAP2LL/A
 

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oh man, if this is true, it sure would be nice if they would also add the IMEI of the Sprint models to Verizon, and leave them unlocked. Everyone would start trying to scoop up the Sprint refurb models for added band support.

Anyone tried picking up a Sprint refurb from the Apple Store, and before powering it on, insert an AT&T or VZW SIM???
 

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oh man, if this is true, it sure would be nice if they would also add the IMEI of the Sprint models to Verizon, and leave them unlocked. Everyone would start trying to scoop up the Sprint refurb models for added band support.

Anyone tried picking up a Sprint refurb from the Apple Store, and before powering it on, insert an AT&T or VZW SIM???
Even if they added the IMEI of the Sprint devices to their database it wouldn't matter. Sprint iPhones cannot be unlocked to use on other US carriers.
 

solodogg

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Even if they added the IMEI of the Sprint devices to their database it wouldn't matter. Sprint iPhones cannot be unlocked to use on other US carriers.
You're missing the point. I'm well aware Sprint phones are locked, but at what point are they locked? I can't imagine Apple keeping a stash of locked phones sitting around, but the more likely time would be once it's registered on Sprint's system, the lock would come down to the phone. It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for them to sell the phone both here in the states and overseas, but not make them interchangeable.

I could be wrong, but it wouldn't make sense from a cost stand point to have a bunch of Sprint phones that couldn't be used as overseas models if they weren't selling here, since they are already US locked phones.
 

Jigga

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This is a shocker and a pleasant surprise to me. I'm on VZW and have a T-Mobile 6 in the box that I no longer need for work. Had no idea it would work for me on Verizon and have been going crazy looking for a VZ phone for myself!

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yes everything works
Talk & text?
 

terraphantm

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You're missing the point. I'm well aware Sprint phones are locked, but at what point are they locked? I can't imagine Apple keeping a stash of locked phones sitting around, but the more likely time would be once it's registered on Sprint's system, the lock would come down to the phone. It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for them to sell the phone both here in the states and overseas, but not make them interchangeable.

I could be wrong, but it wouldn't make sense from a cost stand point to have a bunch of Sprint phones that couldn't be used as overseas models if they weren't selling here, since they are already US locked phones.
They're essentially locked from the factory. The models shipped with US SKUs are tagged by Apple such that the activation server sends the locked ticket as soon as you try to activate it. Doesn't matter what sim you try to activate it with, it will be locked to Sprint
 

solodogg

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They're essentially locked from the factory. The models shipped with US SKUs are tagged by Apple such that the activation server sends the locked ticket as soon as you try to activate it. Doesn't matter what sim you try to activate it with, it will be locked to Sprint
how would it lock the device to Sprint if a Sprint SIM is never inserted? I'm very curious now...I could be way off base here, but if the activation server is sending the lock down, why would that ever get sent down if it's trying to activate with AT&T, T-Mo, or VZW???
 
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