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Plutonius

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San Francisco if currently looking at a tax on robots to help pay for workers replaced by robots.

It sounds like it might be a good idea but I wonder how much of that money will actually end up supporting people replaced by robots.

What do you think of the idea ?
 

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San Francisco if currently looking at a tax on robots to help pay for workers replaced by robots.

It sounds like it might be a good idea but I wonder how much of that money will actually end up supporting people replaced by robots.

What do you think of the idea ?
It's dumb, IMO. How about these hack politicians learn how to stop wasteful government spending so that they don't NEED to tax any and everything?
 

NT1440

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It's dumb, IMO. How about these hack politicians learn how to stop wasteful government spending so that they don't NEED to tax any and everything?
Sure thing, let's stop the Cost+ legalized fraud that consumes of billions of dollars in the military budget. That alone would allow you to divert funds to places that actually need it, like Flint.
 

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How would the IRS even administer a tax like this? What qualifies as a robot and how do you know when that robot has displaced a human, vs a robot simply getting slotted into a role that didn't exist before?
 

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San Francisco if currently looking at a tax on robots to help pay for workers replaced by robots.

It sounds like it might be a good idea but I wonder how much of that money will actually end up supporting people replaced by robots.

What do you think of the idea ?
So I've read the entire article and I think this is a dumb idea.

If the concern is that automation is occurring faster than people can re-train, then just put a cap on the dollars companies can spend on automation each year until re-training can catch up.

That solves the problem without turning this into a government money grab opportunity.
 
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It's dumb, IMO. How about these hack politicians learn how to stop wasteful government spending so that they don't NEED to tax any and everything?
Well, if we get rid of people, that eliminates the need for services, thus no need for tax.

:p

Seriously: Robotics are replacing human jobs at an ever faster rate, manufacturing and some services will be 90+% automated in 20 years shifting the displaced workers to ever fewer highly skilled work.
Maybe will be jobs fixing those robots?

I wonder about the Coal Miners, fatal work but pays really well, what left to be replaced by robots.
 
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San Francisco if currently looking at a tax on robots to help pay for workers replaced by robots.

It sounds like it might be a good idea but I wonder how much of that money will actually end up supporting people replaced by robots.

What do you think of the idea ?
Sounds like an inevitable measure as automation pushes more and more people out of the workplace.

Somehow money will have to be redistributed back to the citizens.
 

BeeGood

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Agreed. For me the worst is property tax. Paying for crap you ALREADY own? Unreal!!!!
Everytime I see my property tax bill I want to shed a tear or three. And my house is a relatively modest one for the area we live in. I'd hate to see some of my neighbors' bills.

But, at least our county is generally transparent about where the money goes. 2/3 goes to the school system and the rest goes to fire, county police, parks, the county lockup, etc. Stuff I can at least justify. Unlike federal and state income taxes which just seem to disappear into a hazy bureaucratic pit.
 
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Everytime I see my property tax bill I want to shed a tear or three. And my house is a relatively modest one for the area we live in. I'd hate to see some of my neighbors bill.

But, at least our county is generally transparent about where the money goes. 2/3 goes to the school system and the rest goes to fire, county police, parks, the county lockup, etc. Stuff I can at least justify. Unlike federal and state income taxes which just seem to disappear into a hazy bureaucratic pit.
My house in CT and NH has pretty low taxes and I am fine with how those respective towns handle the finances. I have another house in CT where the MILL rate is like 41. They waste so much damn money. I can't wait to sell that house.
 

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Everytime I see my property tax bill I want to shed a tear or three. ...
That's interesting.

My wife and I have never had kids, so we help pay for schools we've never directly used.

And still, no tears shed.
 

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My house in CT and NH has pretty low taxes and I am fine with how those respective towns handle the finances. I have another house in CT where the MILL rate is like 41. They waste so much damn money. I can't wait to sell that house.
Yikes. 41 is absolutely obscene.

Mine is low 30s for local and county combined....and I thought that was bad. I hope you sell that thing soon.
 

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That's interesting.

My wife and I have never had kids, so we help pay for schools we've never directly used.

And still, no tears shed.
Did you read the rest of my post?
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Nobody wants to buy a house with a rate that high. It sucks.
Ugh. That's understandable. Can you at least break even by renting it?
 

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Did you read the rest of my post?
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Ugh. That's understandable. Can you at least break even by renting it?
We rent it to a family member so at least it isn't costing me anything, but I'm not earning anything either. I like to dump assets that aren't actively earning for me.
 
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Plutonius

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How would the IRS even administer a tax like this? What qualifies as a robot and how do you know when that robot has displaced a human, vs a robot simply getting slotted into a role that didn't exist before?
Do the new self driving cars qualify as robots ?
 

citizenzen

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When did I say that I actually cry?

Guess that answers my question. You didn't read any of what I posted. Perhaps you should move along now.
I'm not going anywhere.

Perhaps you should reconsider telling everyone how emotional you are.
 
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BeeGood

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Do the new self driving cars qualify as robots ?
They will absolutely be categorized as robots. Since this is a leftist ploy to siphon money out of people, the more things we can call a robot, the better. Because more taxes is always better.
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I'm not going anywhere.

Perhaps you should reconsider telling everyone how emotional you are.
Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension If you want to have conversations with adults.

Just a suggestion. Feel free to stick around.
 

NT1440

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Why are you arguing with me? I want politicians to stop wasteful government spending before they burden the populace with more taxes.
Because I don't believe many of the things you refer to as burdens are such, and instead part of a civilized society. We can START the cuts at the things that truly don't help the population, such as our insane military bloat.
 
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