Ted Cruz a modern day Benedict Arnold?

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  1. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    Ted Cruz a modern day Benedict Arnold?

    Behind that huge lawyers smile, he is doing everything he can to impede governing, and make it sound like he is saving America.

    But is could be another reason...
     
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    I'd call him Jim Jones, but in this case he's serving up spiked tea...
     
  3. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    Hmmmm. Are you saying he is trying to sabotage the U.S. economy on behalf of a foreign power? Or that he is trying to weaken and discredit the G.O.P. in order to secretly help Democrats?

    I don't think so. He's clearly more than willing to sink the economy and damage the Republican Party for his own self aggrandizement however. Benedict Arnold was a lot smarter than Ted Cruz.
     
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    I'd call him the modern day McCarthy. He even looks a bit like him.
     
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I actually believe he thinks he is trying to save America.

    I think he's horribly wrong in that belief, but I think he actually believes he's trying to do the right thing for the country.

    He's not Benedict Arnold.

    He's just a very, very misguided politician.
     
  6. anonymouslurker macrumors regular

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    Know why there are no jokes about Jim Jones?

    The punchline is too long! ;)
     
  7. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Definition of a Lawyer?

    (ok, not all, just most :p)

    Your killing them with that line.

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    Well, he is a Canadian born with a Cuban father vieing (sp?) to be the next POTUS.
    That sounds like a big time commie socialist plot.
     
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    vying
     
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    Perusing the Wikipedia entry on Benedict Arnold, one comes across this sentence:
    After joining the growing army outside Boston, he distinguished himself through acts of intelligence and bravery.

    Which brings to mind the 1988 Vice-Presidential debate and Lloyd Bentsen's most famous reproach of Dan Quayle's presumptuousness ...
     
  11. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    Good one. I was about to compare him to the odious John C. Calhoun, the grandfather of the Civil War. And, Ted Cruz would probably take that as a compliment. But, Calhoun, evil though he was, was no fool.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Calhoun

    Ted Cruz has the stamina, ambition, and ruthlessness of Calhoun, but, is lacking the intellectual and managerial capacity that Calhoun had. That doesn't seem to matter to his angry social conservative followers.
     
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    He's not Benedict Arnold, he's a Bill Murray character: a moron who's supremely confident in himself.

    It'd be funny if not for the fact that in politics, that's one of the most dangerous types.
     
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    Actually that crazy Ted Cruz looks more like Grandpa Munster!

    And is just as creepy, in his own way.

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    Any relation to Paul Ryan/Eddie Munster?


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    At first I read that as "christian domination".

    However accidentally I may have come across that, I think it's a great term. I can just picture a right wing politician in spiked leather, with a cross around his neck and a bullwhip, forcing his beliefs on us.
     
  17. AhmedFaisal, Oct 30, 2013
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    One of the many issues I have with Cruz is his attitude about Obama's claim to citizenship because Cruz was born in Canada (U.S. mom), his father is Cuban, and might as well throw in Romney who was born in Mexico (with U.S. parents living in exile) as examples of the hypocrisy. Conservative voters applaud him and his father like crazy, don't care where he or his father were born, but insist Obama should go back to Kenya, even though Obama has a U.S. Birth Certificate?? :confused: < actually I'm not confused, I just like this emoticon with its question marks. :)
     
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    his farther is a real peace of work and has the birther and the dominionist thing down pat.
    The father of Tea Party-hero Ted Cruz wants to send President Barack Obama “back to Kenya,” according to video of a 2012 speech during his son’s campaign for Senate.

    In the clip — which was flagged Thursday by the left-leaning news outlet Mother Jones — Rafael Cruz, an evangelical pastor, calls the United States “a Christian nation” and tells the crowd “we need to send Barack Obama back to Chicago, back to Kenya.” Rafael Cruz also calls Obama a socialist and rails against the so-called “death panels” some erroneously claim are part of the Affordable Care Act.

    A spokesperson for Sen. Cruz told Mother Jones, “These selective quotes, taken out of context, mischaracterize the substance of Pastor Cruz’s message. Like many Americans, he feels America is on the wrong track,” adding that “Pastor Cruz does not speak for the senator.”

    Read more: Ted Cruz’s Dad Wants to Send Obama ‘Back to Kenya’ | TIME.com http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/31/ted-cruz-dad-wants-to-send-obama-back-to-kenya/#ixzz2jPSRXqYu
     
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    Just remember, they are not "racists". For some definition of "racist" that I haven't been able to figure out.

    Yes, they obviously feel that America is "on the wrong track" by electing and re-electing a black man. The extent to which that is shared by the "Tea Party" is open for debate. Depending on how you define "Tea Party", the Tea Party "members" are mostly financial conservatives or social conservatives. The fact that some of these groups can cohabit the same political party is a proof of the power of advertising.
     
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    By the definition that it hurts their feelings when you accuse them of racism. Real racists are psychotic orifices who consider their racist attitude to be a good thing. Read the Turner Diaries to get an idea what I mean (seriously, make sure you have a therapist handy, that book will make your skin crawl).
     
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    I agree with this. He's serious in his own head but pretty much a political joke like Gingrich but only worse. Unfortunately, like Gingrich, he's pretty smart and can navigate DC so his political career will last a few more years than it should.

    I think he can probably be in top 3 for GOP during 2016 primaries but will lose to somebody more moderate (yet still conservative). He will make a big ultra conservative noise like a Santorum but then concede to party unity and back whomever the nominee is.
     
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    Impeding governance when the government is racing towards a state of tyranny is saving America.

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    As far as I can tell, he got elected as a US Senator from Texas and has been spending most of his time setting up a run for President. But what exactly has he done for Texas? Nada, except help give us a bad name. Considering the entire states population he is a piss poor representative focused on the political agenda of a minority and not the majority. Especially ironic is his Hispanic last name.
     
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    Once again proving that modern day conservatism is largely based on projection, Cruz is A. an elitist snob, B. an ivory tower academic, C. in the same citizen boat as Obama, D. has a father with radical views, and E. has a pastor problem. Oh and he's inexperienced, having only served briefly in the senate. Plus, he's got celebrity status on the right. I dare say they worship him...

    All these were considered mortal knocks against Obama in 2008. Yet now they have no problems with any of it.

    I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
     

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