teen burglars held at gun point in CA.

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http://kron4.com/2017/05/03/california-homeowner-holds-teen-burglary-suspects-at-gunpoint/
CHINO HILLS (KRON) – A Southern California homeowner took matters into his own hands when he noticed people trying to break into his home.

The Chino Hills man was able to catch the suspects and hold them at gunpoint until police arrived. He even snapped of photo of the moment he held the teen suspects on the ground.
“They came home from the supermarket and they noticed somebody jump the fence and try to pry in and he panicked and had a gun and pulled out and did a warning shot,” a neighbor said.
LUCKY PUNKS. :mad:
HOPE the parents step in & kick their asses before they are sent to juvi.
 

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All good except for the warning shot.
Warning shots are unsafe. They are rounds that go somewhere other than the intended target.
Remember, you are responsible for every single round fired.

If you can fire a warning shot, you are not in imminent danger. The shot is not justified.
If the person is fleeing, you cannot shoot at them unless they are shooting back.
If they are simply running away, YOU are not in any danger.
 

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If you can fire a warning shot, you are not in imminent danger. The shot is not justified.
That makes no sense. There are many situations where a waring shot is a good option, not saying this situation warranted one but in others it's a good option.
 

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All good except for the warning shot.
Warning shots are unsafe. They are rounds that go somewhere other than the intended target.
Remember, you are responsible for every single round fired.

1.If you can fire a warning shot, you are not in imminent danger. The shot is not justified.
2.If the person is fleeing, you cannot shoot at them unless they are shooting back.
If they are simply running away, YOU are not in any danger.
1.this being CA there is a change he might face charges.
2. I thought the same but there are instances that you can get away with it, I need to look it up.
 

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1.this being CA there is a change he might face charges.
2. I thought the same but there are instances that you can get away with it, I need to look it up.
Not sure on Cali law regarding this, but even here in gun friendly AZ, warning shots typically lead to at minimum a citation and fine.
It is illegal to discharge a firearm unless it is in self defense. Warning shots are not considered justifiable. Granted it is up to the officer on the scene to make that determination and most will not do anything unless the warning shot caused harm.
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That makes no sense. There are many situations where a waring shot is a good option, not saying this situation warranted one but in others it's a good option.
It is never a good option.
Do you know where that round is going to land?
Warning shots break rule 4.
Even a warning shot fired into the air is going to land somewhere.

The 4 rules should always be followed.
1. All guns are always loaded. (Treat them so!)
2. Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target (and you have made the decision to shoot).
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
 
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There are many situations where a waring shot is a good option, not saying this situation warranted one but in others it's a good option.
It seems very problematic. I can't think of any scenario where it would be a good option, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. Can you describe one or two? (Not looking for an argument, just genuinely curious.)
 

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Not sure on Cali law regarding this, but even here in gun friendly AZ, warning shots typically lead to at minimum a citation and fine.
It is illegal to discharge a firearm unless it is in self defense. Warning shots are not considered justifiable. Granted it is up to the officer on the scene to make that determination and most will not do anything unless the warning shot caused harm.
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It is never a good option.
Do you know where that round is going to land?
Warning shots break rule 4.
Even a warning shot fired into the air is going to land somewhere.

The 4 rules should always be followed.
1. All guns are always loaded. (Treat them so!)
2. Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target (and you have made the decision to shoot).
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

Ok so if I have a 2 or 3 people coming at me with baseball bats, I guess I will have to drop all 3, since a warning shot is never acceptable.

I hope police also do this when there are riots, no warning shots, just mo down the crowd.
 

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If the person is fleeing, you cannot shoot at them unless they are shooting back.
If they are simply running away, YOU are not in any danger.
well unless you are in Florida then you would be fine. that has happened and stand your ground worked even when they were not armed. lucky California is not that insane.
 

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Ok so if I have a 2 or 3 people coming at me with baseball bats, I guess I will have to drop all 3, since a warning shot is never acceptable.

I hope police also do this when there are riots, no warning shots, just mo down the crowd.
if you have a gun out & they CONTINUE to be a threat you are justified in putting the first one down, if the second-3rd CONTINUE to be threats then you can keep firing.

JFYI, you don't say "I fired a warning shot" as that could lead to charges, but you could say you had an AD ;)
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well unless you are in Florida then you would be fine. that has happened and stand your ground worked even when they were not armed. lucky California is not that insane.
someone does NOT need to be armed with a firearm to be a threat steve.
 

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if you have a gun out & they CONTINUE to be a threat you are justified in putting the first one down, if the second-3rd CONTINUE to be threats then you can keep firing.

JFYI, you don't say "I fired a warning shot" as that could lead to charges, but you could say you had an AD ;)
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someone does NOT need to be armed with a firearm to be a threat steve.
while running away and not armed??? seems you did not read very well.
 

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no, this was a civilian who dealt with a home invader and shot at him while he was fleeing, here in CA in the last 2-3 years IIRC, I can't find the story.
Ah gotcha ok. Was it the Long Beach Case of the Elder Man... 2015

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-no-charges-home-burglary-20150126-story.html

"No charges will be filed against an 80-year-old man who fatally shot a woman who was burglarizing his Long Beach home, prosecutors said Monday.

On July 22, Thomas Greer fired two bullets into the back of Andrea Miller, 28, even after she begged him not to shoot and claimed she was pregnant."
 
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Ah gotcha ok. Was it the Long Beach Case of the Elder Man... 2015

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-no-charges-home-burglary-20150126-story.html

"No charges will be filed against an 80-year-old man who fatally shot a woman who was burglarizing his Long Beach home, prosecutors said Monday.

On July 22, Thomas Greer fired two bullets into the back of Andrea Miller, 28, even after she begged him not to shoot and claimed she was pregnant."
Good god. If the autopsy report confirmed entry into the back that guy should have been charged for murder, period. Wtf happened?
 
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Ah gotcha ok. Was it the Long Beach Case of the Elder Man... 2015

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-no-charges-home-burglary-20150126-story.html

"No charges will be filed against an 80-year-old man who fatally shot a woman who was burglarizing his Long Beach home, prosecutors said Monday.

On July 22, Thomas Greer fired two bullets into the back of Andrea Miller, 28, even after she begged him not to shoot and claimed she was pregnant."
no, this guy used a shot gun, it was a condo and the guy slipped in when when he was getting things from his SUV. the criminal lived.
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Good god. If the autopsy report confirmed entry into the back that guy should have been charged for murder, period. Wtf happened?
sure sounds like an execution.
 
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Damn misread the thread title, thought it was about this:


The warning shot should be investigated, bullets travel and come to rest eventually. A responsible gun owner should know that.