The "after I saw the scary new Mac Pro, all I want is a Mac Mini with an SSD!"

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by animatedude, Jun 10, 2013.

  1. animatedude macrumors 65816

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    let's face it...the new Mac Pro is not for "us" Apple fanboys.It's for the elitist "real Pro" users who do "serious" stuff "we" Facebook users don't understand.

    give me an aluminum Mac Mini with SSD, thanks. ;)
     
  2. KaraH macrumors 6502

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    Actually the new MP is not for serious users either. They need internal storage, expansion bays, and the like.

    If apple finally puts a graphics card in the mini I would bite. Even a non-removable one like in the MP since a card used to be one of its advantages.

    The debate seems to be that apple wants the middle of the market for the new MP. It is not good for pros and lower end users do not like it either.
     
  3. Omnius macrumors 6502a

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    The new mac pro is great for a lot of pros. It reflects the reality of a lot of pro work stations. The sky is falling crowd is comprised of a lot of people who are on the fringes of their intended market. Really, it reminds me a lot of the 1,1 release. Tons of crazy naysayers yelling about doom and gloom.
     
  4. theSeb macrumors 604

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    Yes, all Mac Pro users are the same and all have the exact same needs as you when it comes to internal storage and expansion bays. ;)
     
  5. cmanderson macrumors regular

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    The happy ones are just flooding MacRumors and other related forums to tell us all about them.

    Actually, there are some, but for the most part, folks on forums are not representative of the user base as a whole.

    They're the enthusiastic ones who love to share their knowledge (or lambast others for lack thereof, depending on what you're reading at any given time), but again, they're the vocal minority. In so many cases, the ANONYMOUS vocal minority.

    Apple is talking to their pro users and finding out what they want to see. That's fact.

    Whether or not their vision ultimately aligns with the average pro user remains to be seen.

    I for one think it will make a lot of sense for the pro user to migrate to the new platform, but it's going to bump a lot of users who would have previously considered a Mac Pro down to an iMac, a Mac Mini, a Hackintosh, or even a non-Apple platform. And that's ok.

    We have choice, and Apple is not going to be dictated to by the vocal minority. That much has been proven over and over and over again. They're going to be dictated by wallets opening or not. And so far, last I checked, they're NOT hurting for cash. The Mac Pro is such a niche relative to the bulk of what they now sell, it's not going to make or break their company.
     
  6. McGiord macrumors 601

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    What would be the price of the New MacPro???

    I am also waiting for a Mini with a better video capabilities, maybe after they release some 'retina' o 4K Apple Displays...???
     
  7. theSeb macrumors 604

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    I see a lot of good things in the new Mac Pro, but I also have a lot of concerns. I have invested into TB external storage, but I am not happy about the cable hell associated with this approach. I might bite the bullet and get a proper rack along with some rackable TB based goodies, such as this:

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Lance-AR macrumors 6502

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    I'm a big IO user with a Pegasus R6 and a Synology DS1812+ hanging off my workstation. I was hoping for something more than the quad core mini but the new pro just seems too over the top. I'll wait for pricing but I expect to be priced out of the market here for my needs. (and that's okay)
     
  9. nycmi macrumors member

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    What is this case? Looks awesome.
     
  10. theSeb macrumors 604

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    Check out the black magic design website. It's recently been announced and is on their front page. You are supposed to mount it in a server cabinet.
     
  11. benwiggy macrumors 68020

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    The fact is that computing tasks are not increasing much in complexity, whereas computing POWER is increasing exponentially.
    Today's iMacs, MBPs and Minis, with laptop components, can do lots of "Pro"-level work.
    Print Publishing? Don't need a Mac Pro.
    Web Design/Software dev? Don't need a Mac Pro.
    Photography? Don't need a Mac Pro.
    Music? Don't need a Mac Pro. (Perhaps for some high-end stuff.)

    There are some tasks that seem to eat whatever power is thrown at them. For those, it's all about the speed, as time is money. Video/animation/3D rendering etc, etc will certainly benefit from the speed of a Mac Pro.
    It's a smaller market -- day by day it gets smaller. But Apple will have done their homework about the market for this new beast.

    Would I like one? Sure! Do I need one? No. Could I afford one? No. :p
     
  12. Cheffy Dave macrumors 68030

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    Finally a voice of reason, it is so sweet, not for me but I am all in on the new

    MBA, ASAP
     
  13. Cheffy Dave macrumors 68030

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    Until released, how can we know, any guess's are pure BS
     
  14. scottsjack macrumors 68000

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    Change "a lot of pros" to "some pros" and "reflects the reality of a lot of pro work stations" to "reflects the reality of pro work stations for very specific types of jobs" and you are getting close.

    If you are looking for the reality of a lot of pro work stations try an HP Z.
     
  15. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

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    If the next-gen mini sports the quad-core chip with Iris Pro graphics I'll jump all over that.
     
  16. patent10021 macrumors 68030

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    I don't know about that. I use external HDDs for media whether it be audio or video. In my case three 2TB HDDs. Of course I'd use internal HDDs if they were available stock but I'd rather have CPU/GPU performance over internal storage options.

    This will be even more desirable as TB HDDs come down in price. By year end we could see significant price drops.

    Now if I could have say three 2TB SSDs in the Mac Pro that would be a different story. Affordable 2TB SSDs wont be around for eons though. By that time there'd be a new Mac Pro.
     
  17. Omnius macrumors 6502a

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    I'm really excited to see that Apple is pushing a "life after sata" After they discontinued optical drives, I found that A) I almost never used optical media anymore anyway and B) Businesses followed suit and stopped producing things with optical media.

    Honestly, the only place I see optical disks anymore is law offices because they are perpetually behind the times with tech.
     
  18. ivnj macrumors 65816

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    looks like a good prop for the next star trek movie
     
  19. philipma1957 macrumors 603

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    no quad core chip has the iris gpu. btw i would want it myself. mobile quad cores all sport the 4600 gpu
     
  20. John Kotches macrumors 6502

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    The other value for the pro with its 12 cores are for systems engineers and architects.

    I could build a very good PoC with virtuals on the new Pro cheaper than building on rack mount commodity servers.
     
  21. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

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  22. philipma1957 macrumors 603

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    yeah I missed that on a-tech

    these 3 cpu's

    http://ark.intel.com/products/76087

    http://ark.intel.com/products/76086/Intel-Core-i7-4850HQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

    http://ark.intel.com/products/76085/Intel-Core-i7-4950HQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

    all have the 5200 they are costly about 550 for the 4950hq and about 440 for the 4850hq
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    two of them would be really nice improvement over the 2012 i7-3610qm i7- 3615qm

    these older cpus were 346 and 378 usd
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    the i7 4850hq and the i7 4950hq would be a big improvement over the current quad cores

    but they will more likely give the i7 4800mq or the i7 4700mq or the i7 4702mq
     
  23. MindsEye macrumors regular

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    I think so too but maybe an Iris Pro SKU will be a BTO option on the higher end config. Something like the Core i7-4702MQ base and Core i7-4850HQ or Core i7-4950HQ BTO.

    Wasn't even thinking about the mini but with Mavericks and possibly .ac, thunderbolt 2 etc. definitely have one eye on the next update.
     
  24. philipma1957 macrumors 603

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    if they offer a 2013 mini with the i7-4950hq or the i7-4850hq I am getting one for sure.
     
  25. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

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    I hope so... The problem is that the CPU alone costs more than the current base Mini.
     

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