The Austrian Thread

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by numediaman, Apr 25, 2004.

  1. numediaman macrumors 6502a

    Jan 5, 2004
    Chicago (by way of SF)
    In honor of our Austrian comrades:

    Fischer to be Austrian president

    Opposition candidate Heinz Fischer has been elected Austrian President - the first Social Democrat to hold the largely ceremonial post since 1986.

    Mr Fischer won 52.4% of the vote in Sunday's election - against 47.59% for the conservative candidate, Foreign Minister Benita Ferrero-Waldner.

    His victory indicates dissatisfaction with the coalition government, says the BBC's Bethany Bell in Vienna.

    Mrs Ferrero-Waldner was nominated by Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel's party.

    With the backing of the far-right as well, she had hoped to become the first female president since Austria was reformed as a republic in 1955.

    She says she will continue as foreign minister.

    During the campaign Mr Fischer - a senior opposition parliamentarian - promised to focus on domestic issues such as the country's youth and security for the elderly.

    He stressed his commitment to Austria's neutrality and to the country's welfare state.
  2. Ugg macrumors 68000


    Apr 7, 2003
    takao? Was it Haider's support for Ferrero-Waldner that made her lose? It seems like it was a pretty close race so it's hard to tell.

    It always seems frightening that people like le Pen, Haider, gw bush can come to power. What are people so afraid of that they back these xenophobic candidates?
  3. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
  4. takao macrumors 68040


    Dec 25, 2003
    Dornbirn (Austria)
    hm it might played a role but not a big one.. i guess the ÖVP just wasn't able to bring their loyal voters into the election cabin...
    the percantage of people who voted where in some places really really low as never before...
    here in Vorarlberg where 'the blacks' (ÖVP 'peoples party') is extremly strong , the election turnout was extremly bad at 54% and ferrero waldner won with 52 percent i guess ... but in the Burgenland which is a deeply red (SPÖ - socialist party) the turnout was like 80% and fischer won there easily

    the SPÖ is traditionally very strong in the big cities with much workers and liberas and the ÖVP is traditional strong in the country with lot support from farmers etc.

    and vienna of course is split between liberal greens and socialist reds... and this time i guess those who supported the green party normaly supported fischer this time....

    and of course at the moment many peoples are unhappy with the actual govermant and were "protest voting"
    in the last 2-3 weeks ferrero waldner tried to play the "vote for the first female president" game ..but i guess it was too late for her

    but i doesn't make any difference because the position of the president is rather unimportant in austria ..he is highest commander of the army,represents austria in the world and he can throw the goverment out of the house if he wants ..but thats everything he can do...the position of the chancellor is more important (and the chancellor is still wolfgang schüssel...which is a arrogant,lying,power hungry bast....but i'm getting offtopic here)

    the rather amusing thing about the FPÖ,with there sometimes (i have to defend them here, even if i didn't voted them, they are not as radical as other parties for example in france,italy or even...switzerland) xenophobic views,is that the party is stronger in cities and parts of the country with the lowest percentage of foreign people.. in carinthia (where haider is gouvenor) it has a percentage of perhaps 2% of people with foreign passports the fpö has over vienna where there are 20% non-austrians the FPÖ has perhaps 5%

    'the less people from foreign countrys the bigger the fear is'.....
    sums it up pretty good for austria (in general there might be exceptions of course)

    i guess it is just easier for politicians to gain share if they mobilize "fear" than "understanding"
    tell the people what they want to hear .. (don't need to be the truth) .. and they will follow ...
    tell them you will fight against those other people they fear (in haiders example: "those evil foreigners who will steal your job and will commit crimes unpunished" "those evil drug dealing weed smokers" "we will clean up with those" and yess somtimes their slogans were really _that_ bad) and they vote your party

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