The end of manual labor jobs, what will they do for work?

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    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/24/google-robot-is-the-end-of-manual-labor-vc.html
    "Manual labor is going to end in our lifetime, and in this video you can see how close we really are. It's a huge societal issue with jobs, but it's going to be a huge lift in terms of efficiency of companies that nobody expected."

    You people ready for this? Too bad, it's going to happen either way.

    We'll have MASSIVE unemployment. Keep raising min wage, see what happens. Keep buying those over price degrees, keep spending more than you earn... see what happens next.
     
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    What will they do? Once they leave their campus safe spaces and try to make it in the real world, the sensitive snowflakes with their art history and womyn's study degrees will sell their organs to the graduates with STEM degrees and MBAs.
     
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    The only choice they'll have is to vote themselves all the stuff they want.

    Aren't we able to grow organs from a few DNA cells or something?

    I've got an idea, a new reality show staring Click. They can use the college campuses to sling mud at anyone that doesn't agree with them.
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    The tech sector is fueled by so much money, fantasy and entitlement they've lost touch with reality. Ad in the lethal liberal progressives, the Hussein factor plus the Clinton Machine, and you have the demise of life as we know it. Utter collapse of the middle class, explosive homelessness and poverty promise to forever change the Landscape. Transitions occurring so rapidly if robots are deployed, there'll be no turning back.
     
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    It's scary out there. Manufacturing here in CA is almost gone. We need Trump to make America great again :D
     
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    Yes, I'm sure he'll make the Mexicans pay for our unemployment benefits too.
     
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    Gazillion Mexicans on minimum wage send plenty of cash back home every freaking week. Don't underestimate what Mexicans can do .....
     
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    Mexico has an upper hand, they live cheap and work hard. They're buying and taking American companies.

    It's the overpaid, under educated, entitled, sue happy Americans that are in for a wake up.
     
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    NAFTA stuck it to Mexico. Sure they got some work but even Mexico can't compete with the Chinese who make cents per hour......
     
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    Didn't have time to read the entire article, but here's what I think:

    If automatisation in labour will happen, then there will be either unemployment, or lowering of salary. To counter that, things need to be cheaper. If that won't happen, it'll be an absolute crisis.

    There's something I used to say a while back, the future will either be everyone homeless, or everyone happy and without the need to work. While that certainly won't happen, the principal remains; if the big guys stay greedy, then the whole world may fall into a crisis. Otherwise, tough jobs won't be as necessary and many people will be at an advantage.
     
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    It's going to be a Nasty ride while things level off
     
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    Actually China is/was having a problem as more entered their middle class. The shipping and increase in their labor costs made Mexico the next labor hot spot. Look at all the companies that are leaving for Mexico.
     
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    so you're going to get him to bring his clothes manufacturing back to America? :p
     
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    This is a supply/demand model with a flood of supply. The cheap unlimited supply of 'human' labor will bring to an end the value of human labor.

    Most humans depend on their human labor to make ends meet. Some depend on the value of their capital to make ends meet. Capital value will rise and labor value will fall. One can be constrained and controlled (capital) the other can't.

    It's not hard for a rich man to say no to buying something, it's harder for a poor person to say no to any work they need to feed themselves.

    The labor force with the highest demand skills at the lowest costs will survive, the others will not.

    This is a function of the costs of living. The US has a HUGE cost of living. Even with the HUGE amount that we spend, we still can't even come close to making ends meet.

    The Obama recovery added $10,000,000,000,000.00 to the national debt and yet the poor got poorer and more people don't own homes.

    When you state these facts, people drag their flame throwers out and scream W did it...

    Remember, when Rome was in flames, none of the blame put out any of the flame.

    While we flame-n-blame, our nation goes down the tubes.

    Enjoy the ride, you earned it.
     
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    Obama loves the poor, so much that he made many more poor , you are now mandated to have insurance and the cost is between 6-10% of your income and God forbid you use it because the out of pocket cost will kill you.
     
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    If there are no manual labour jobs then robots will either be banned or society will collapse.
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    Still better than before when if you got ill you were literally ****ed.
     
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    More fear mongering or did I interrupt a circle jerk?
     
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    I can't imagine most university graduates end up in manual labor jobs.
     
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    No. Global Warming is both fear mongering AND a circle jerk.
     
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    All I had to do was read the "robots are too inflexible". They got the wrong setup or the tech isn't up to par yet. They might have tried to "over automate"
    Not to mention the costs are still coming down.

    Don't expect that automation will answer everything.
     
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    Some processes take human touch and experience, whereas a robot could mangle.
     
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    And that's a good thing for us :D Although I see that robots are doing surgery, so hmmm...
     
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    Whatever happened to freedom? Money is freedom. Why are you suggesting slavery or serfdom by not having the minimum wage increased? Or an excuse to move more jobs out of the country? Aren't the minimum wage jobs the ones being replaced by the robots that cost less but whose wages won't go back into the economy? So maybe we should stop being slave to supply side trickle down free market voodoo economics (Bush called Reagan's utopia "voodoo economics", in 1980, deal with it)

    Most people see college degrees as necessary. "The new high school diploma". One might want to ask instead of making assumptions, or at the very least look at a newspaper.

    Those manual simpleton jobs are often ways to get into a company. It'll be interesting to see what happens as the decades go by in our "pro-life but one you're born you're cheap labor and we don't care if you starve if it pays for the college we demand you have for a job" not-so-Christian-but-we-say-we-are-anyway nation.
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    If you spent (1120% more in 2012 than in 1978) for college, aren't you going to want to find a job that adds experience to what the college taught that earned one that degree?

    If college costs were so cheap one could pay them via a summer job like how people could in 1970, then some of the vitriol others put out I would agree with. But it's not 1970 anymore, either. ;(
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    Oh, note the other long-running meme in this article - how those without college degrees still get paid the least...

    http://www.stltoday.com/business/lo...cle_29c10363-5e31-547a-b84c-1d3f972c59a6.html


    ...if it's true that college no longer pays off but costs 1120% more than in 1978, maybe America should just rot. Or maybe Americans should look at all candidates and see how costs can be fixed. Or repayment plans that expire after x number of years, where the interest accrued still ends up being a zero-sum game...
     
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    I'm not a fan of trickle down economics. It's better than what the Left is offering, but it's not a 1st choice. Several problems with trickle down and I can go into that if you wish.

    Min wage: if min wage is higher than the jobs skills of the person working, they don't work. In addition, if you lower min wage, you get more human into the work force and that lowers the supply which caused the price to go up. The price will go up based on the economic value of the work being done. The employer will be forced (market forces, not legal forces) to find a way to add more economic value to the work the person does. This is usually solved with on the job training for things of higher value economic value.

    It's not just an issue of more money in someone's pocket. It's an issue of how what economic event puts that money in someone's pocket. If they stack marbles for a living, it won't have great economic value. Lower min wage forces higher economic performance out of the economic activity.
     

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