The FBI Our Savior? I’ll Say Yes.

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    I am so greatful that the entire US Government has not been subverted by wholesale partisan corruption, but I’ll observe that we as a society are in serious danger of destroying our Democracy by partisanship and electing people to the Congress and specifically the Presidency who have ZERO regard for the rule of law. For Trump, his rule of law, is whoever I can corrupt, who I can fool, and whatever I can get away with.

    Thank you Republicans, James Comey and Robert Mueller.
     
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    Yeah, quite the savior is our FBI. [/sarcasm]

    I have one savior, Jesus Christ.

    fbi.jpg fbi2.jpg fbi3.jpg
     
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    This is such an outstanding post illustrating how in some partisan conservative corners the FBI has gone from being Republican heroes to being villains because they are investigating a corrupt jackass with an R after his name. Your last cartoon is a doozy. Thanks! :)
     
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    Sorry I had the nerve to disagree with your assessment of the FBI as saviors. They certainly were on the ball concerning Cruz.
     
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    Please, stop with the injecting of personal emotions into your post about how you think I feel when your posts disagree with me.

    You posted a carton that shows the entire FBI focused on Trump, while committing it’s own treason, which is a deceitful, over the top partisan falsehood serving to undermine the FBI and push the gun lobby agenda.
     
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    And once again, you fail to say anything regarding the Cruz case. So no, even without the partisan tactics of some of the top people in the FBI, I don't view them as anyone's saviors.
     
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    They are mostly Republican (Comey, Mueller, etc.). Because they are investigating Trump, that makes them partisan?
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    The FBI probably gets an almost unmanageable number of reports every year about people like Cruz. They are not perfect, so I don't see the need for some people to be smearing them other than the fact that they are investigating Trump and to divert the discussion from gun control.
     
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    They don't need to be saviors. They just need to do their jobs. Just like weekly garbage collectors are not saviors. Garbage collectors just need to do their jobs. And the postal workers (the mail man) are not saviors. But I expect the mail man to deliver my mail and just do his job.

    So the bigmouth POTUS should just shut up and let the FBI and Mueller do their job.
     
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    Once again?
    The focus of this thread is National Security and the FBI’s role in efforts resisting Russia having their way with us. This is documented, this is a National threat. We have a President who is in bed with Russians either knowingly or unknowingly. I view the FBI as one of the primary roadblocks to future Russian interference in our Democracy and I am grateful.

    Your response is to critique the FBI as the organization who shoulders primary blame for the Florida shooting, yes? What about the entire gun availability, gun regulation ball of wax debate? I said your cartoon was misleading. I will acknowledge FBI’s tip line failed to identify and act on Cruz. Here is an article about it, but again, this is not my focus in this thread.


    What you need to know about the FBI tip line that failed in the Florida shooting
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...i-tip-line-failed-florida-shooting/352250002/
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    I would describe our Executive Branch as compromised, hence the FBI could very well act as saviors if we cherish the survival of our Democracy.
     
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    Comey a savior? Then he was certainly well disguised. Or you’ve been drinking more than me!
     
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    Strzok being a lead investigator in anything pretty much refutes this entire post.
     
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    The two biggest internal opponents of the FBI:
    1. Politics
    2. Complacency

    We have see a bit too much of that lately...
     
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    He is kept detailed notes of Trump's attempts to cow, corrupt and then fire him, testified before Congress and I'm sure this info was passed in detail to Mueller.
     
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    I havent a clue what youre trying to say here. Could you say it again and just be clear?
     
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    You mean like Nunes leading an investigation?
     
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    Your interpretation, interjecting emotion.
     
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    Yes, the detailed notes comment was especially infused with emotion.
     
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    1. The FBI is part of the Executive Branch.
    2. Comey is/was subordinate to Trump.
    3. The President can request, cow, or directly issue the Director of the FBI orders. It’s within his Constitutional authority.
     
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    The FBI as a whole is a good organization. Except primarily with the FBI leadership which I believe is corrupt.
     
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    I agree completely.
     
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    If he had done this correctly with some method to factually verify what he noted and had treated them as FBI material .. maybe. That he didn’t leaves these open to political interpretation. How detailed is open to interpretation.

    The fact you place such emphasis on this, makes them emotional in your post.
     
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    Comey or any FBI Director serves at the pleasure of the President. Trump didn't need any reason to fire him.
     
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    He can’t ask for personal loyalty as a privaledge above the law, at least in any law abiding way.
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    Your opinion.
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    This is not some new surprise. What is unacceptable is the lengths he went to to deceive about why, lie, and then admit, the reason was all a charade, besides asking for personal loyalty like a mafia Don.
     
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    Do you wish to make a clear point (post 15), or challenge anything in post 11 or 19?
     

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