The First Lawsuit Seeking to Overturn New York’s Gay-Marriage Law Is Here

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  1. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    They are just so cute! They claim they're not upset about gay marriage, but they're more upset about broken laws.(yeah, ok) Ironically, their name is "New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms"

    I hope the judge that gets this case makes them feel like idiots before dismissing their lawsuit.


    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/the_first_lawsuit_to_overturn.html

    They just don't give up!
     
  2. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

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    Typical ultra-conservative bullcrap that everyone is more than sick of.
     
  3. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Conservatives have officially turned themselves into a 3 ring circus.
     
  4. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Wolf, in sheep's clothing.

    Try "New Yorkers Against Constitutional Freedoms".
     
  5. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Let them keep it up. It's helping our cause.
     
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    Wirelessly posted (iPod touch 2nd gen: Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

    I can't understand why the US population gives so much importance to their constitution. Québec is not even a part of Canada according to the constitution (which it hasn't signed in 1980) and yet the province survives.

    It is VERY rare that something is declared unconstitutional here, yet your Republicans use this argument virtually everyday.
     
  7. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Just a culture thing. And it's not only republicans that use the constitution to their advantage. On this issue of gay marriage for example, democrats often use the argument that it's unconstitutional to deny marriage rights to gay couples. Also, when it comes to separation of church and state issues the constitution is often referenced.
     
  8. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    The US Constitution was the ultimate compromise and was used to tie 13 very fractious and very different colonies together. It's really important to us in a way that no single Canadian national document could be. Canada largely exists because of the American Revolution but Canada never had its own Revolution, just the uprisings of 1837 which did lead to change but it was very gradual and it was another 40 years before Canada became a country. The US Constitution was written to keep the 13 colonies together. Confederation came about to bring the colonies together.

    The Constitution is misrepresented a great deal and everyone seems to think that they are intimately acquainted with the intentions of the framers of the US Constitution and unconstitutionality is sort of a national past time.
     
  9. dime21 macrumors 6502

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    41 states have passed amendments to their constitutions, specifically defining marriage as between one man and one woman. In every single state that such an amendment was proposed, it passed with a healthy majority. The only exception is Arizona, which failed to pass the amendment in 2005, but then subsequently passed it in 2008. 41 down, only 9 more to go.

    So we have 9 rogue states that want to arbitrarily redefine marriage according to individual cultural livelihoods of the day. What a joke. A small minority of confused liberals.

    With any luck, the new administration in 2012 will pass a federal amendment that overrules the 9 rogue states. After all, a federal Constitutional amendment can be passed by two-thirds of the House and Senate and ratified with only 38 states onboard.
     
  10. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    That's not the way the world, or the US, is going. More and more jurisdictions will recognise homosexual marriage/unions. It's going to be fun watching all the intolerant people getting angry about it. :D
     
  11. dime21 macrumors 6502

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    According to whom? You? Lol!

    41 states vs. 9 states. It's pretty obvious what the "way of the US" is.

    However, the sand is over that way, if you want to stick your head back in it and continue ignoring reality. :D
     
  12. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    According to the trend.

    [​IMG]

    Blue = Has same sex unions
    Red = Homosexuality illegal
    Grey = Legal, but no unions

    I bet you we are going to see a lot more blue appearing in the next few years. Not just marriage either, things like discrimination, the right to adopt etc are all becoming more and more common. There will always be some backwards countries in the world that still live in the past, but the trend is undeniable.
     
  13. yg17 macrumors G5

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    We're in great company with the middle east and all of the 3rd world African countries.

    It's no surprise the death penalty map looks pretty much the same.
     
  14. dime21 macrumors 6502

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    Huh? Put on your reading glasses bro. Executing gays because homosexuality is illegal is the same thing as not allowing gay marriage?? Um, what?? How exactly do you equate these two?

    All the people in Greenland too? Wow, that's so many!! Greenland is so huge, there must be tons of people there, right? LMAO. This fad is going to fizzle out like a bad fart.
     
  15. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    You are in for years of disappointment. The trend is irrefutable, some parts of the USA may fall behind the trend because you guys have a larger number of religious nut-jobs than most similarly developed countries, but gradually change will occur. In 50 years people will look back on bans on homosexual marriage with the same disgust they do with previous bans on inter-racial marriage. It's going to be satisfying watching it happen.
     
  16. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    With any luck their won't be a new administration in 2012. Furthermore, gay marriage will soon be heading to the US supreme court which will throw DOMA in the trash along with DADT which is already history. Seems the only one out of touch here is you. Your side has already lost. As for calling it a trend...LOL
     
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    Good luck with that.

    I'm wondering what individual cultural livelihoods of the day are? You're the one who seems confused. DADT is out. DOMA is on it's way. Don't you think this country has more pressing issues than passing constitutional amendments that deny civil rights?
     
  18. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    The democrats have more pressing issues, however denying civil rights is what conservatives live for, always have.
     
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    I've never understood that. Conservatives seem to be the ones who in most cases bring up the Constitution and constitutional rights, but the Constitution states that gays have equal rights.

    Please explain...
     
  20. likemyorbs thread starter macrumors 68000

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    You will rarely hear conservatives reference the constitution in regards to gay marriage. They usually reference it more when it comes to issues like gun rights and things like that. Many conservative states have actually changed their individual constitutions to ban gay marriage. Honestly it's all very confusing. Mind you, these same conservatives are the ones who's parents tried to deny black people their civil rights 50 years ago.
     
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    The sheer anger and hatred that dime21 spews is sort of scary as is his refusal to recognize the fact that America is changing and gays are now part of the mainstream. Really nobody cares other than Bachmann and other social conservative extremists.

    It's been a long, hard struggle and it's not over yet but equal rights are for everyone, not just white straight males.
     
  22. leekohler macrumors G5

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    No, bigots like you are going to go the way of the dinosaur. Equal protection under the law is going to prevail. You want to live in a theocracy, you're free to do so. Otherwise, if you believe in freedom and equal rights, stay here.

    You're going to LOSE, dime. The constitution does NOT support your cause. Once this gets to the Court, you're going to LOSE.
     
  23. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    Every man, has at some point, had homosexual thoughts, fancies, and accidental (often interesting) dreams of that nature. Whether as a child, teen etc. Those among us who are straight *and confident enough to accept ourselves and others* knew what to make of them and where to put them. It was our "inner gay" saying "hello, I'm a part of your psyche." We learned to understand it and just accepted it as time went on.

    Some folks, like the poster to whom you're referring, never did get over it. And it terrifies them. I can't imagine what it must be like to live like that.
     
  24. coochiekuta macrumors 6502

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    Wow, just wow. I know a guy who says every woman is bisexual. Somewhere deep inside all women is a bisexual he claims. How silly I think.

    It could be worse I suppose. At least you don't believe every man has planned a murder in his mind at some point in his life and had to quiet those voices.
     
  25. leekohler macrumors G5

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    I think a LOT have, but certainly not all. I've never had a heterosexual fantasy, so I'm sure there are plenty of guys who have not had homosexual fantasies as well.
     

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