The French are at it again ...

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    I find it kinda tedious the way people try to generderise everything.

    I'm pretty sure

    - men can be models
    - men can be too skinny and have eating disorders
    - men are covered by this law
     
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    It's been shown that stick models are unhealthy and unhappy,. It's been shown that regular people who look like that frequently suffer from eating disorders, and models provide unrealistic role models for the general populace. I can't agree with "severe punishment as I have no idea what that would entail, but human "sticks" should be discouraged.
     
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    Who genderised?

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    Obviously?

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    It's about banning the depiction of thin people by law.

    It's ****ing perposterous.
     
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    That is excessive as there are better ways to approach it, I think.
     
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    I'm positive he was referring to the article. It mentions women several times.
     
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    Women is said 14 times in the article. 6th most common word, between is and in.
     
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    The photo of the three models used to illustrate the article: does anyone think any of them look unhealthily skinny?

    Re gender, male fashion models are lean but are hugely unlikely to fall below any stipulated BMI figure.
     
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    This is getting to that most dangerous of all questions.

    When your partner turns to you and asks “Do these jeans make my ass look big”?:p:D:p:D
     
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    Man have more muscle tissue than women, women have more fat tissue. Muscle weighs more than fat. The way the BMI is defined, man can almost not have a BMI that is too low.
     
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    That's why we have body fat percentages to fall back on. If you dip below a certain threshold, you should deeply consider eating a few sandwiches, lest you risk organ failure, and disruptions to normal bodily functions.
     
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    That is out of the question, but passing a law against thin people is still something only crazy people would come up with.
     
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    While I think the law is a little overkill, it isn't aimed at slender, but otherwise healthy looking people. We're talking "I can measure your pulse and blood pressure by looking at your neck" type thin.

    Anorexic, or nearly so, in other words.
     
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    Why not? Many are punished for how they think. Or how others perceive that they think. At least the scrawny model is definitivly guilty. Same as a law would be for the morbidly obese.
     
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    I think the sentiment is good and certainly important, but I don't believe in legally mandating models must have a certain BMI. Personally I'd suggest a different means. I'm not sure what that would be off the top of my head, but discriminating models seems wrong.
     
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    Is the idea not to try and tackle the use of size zero models etc?
     
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    On air travel.:cool:
     
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    No. From the all you can eat. And from the beach, of course :mad:
     
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    Agreed with this. The truth of the matter is, BMI is only a useful measure for those living a sedentary or entirely cardio lifestyle. If you eat a healthy amount of protein and lift weights, your healthy choices hurt your BMI.
     
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    Indeed. It is amied at the industry, that THEY get punished, if they use anorexic models. Not the models themselves will be punished.

    At the current stage normal models will hunger to get super thin and get a job. After the law anorexic models will eat to get a job. Why is that harsh?

    (Though I find that BMI is certainly not a good measure, I guess from a medical standpoint there would be more to look for and weigh in).
     
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    It's not harsh, it's ****ing stupid.
    It's discrimination by law against thin people and another unnecessary regulation of the free market. It's none of your ****ing business who wants to pay who to run around in clothes or not.
     
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    That answer is again, a perfect example of a person who spends his time in a classroom with books.



    In the real world, with actual people, society needs rules and laws to function.

    These rules and laws are decided by elected officials, they are enforced by a judicial system based on the rule of law.
     
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    And laws are restricted by basic human rights, like the right to free speech and the right to choose ones profession. These Frenchmen are clearly trying to violate those fundamental principles.
     
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    That sounds like the same bizarre arguments as was used when, Anti Smoking, Seat belt and Drink driving legislation was passed.

    Meanwhile back in the real world.

    I for one would love to see a Fashion house try to use the International Court of Human Rights to force women to become Size Zero models.
     

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