The Hill: Trump endorsed by immigration officers

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  1. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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  2. zin macrumors 6502

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    He was also endorsed by the National Border Patrol Council, representing 18,000 Border Patrol agents, several months ago.

    Why do the people on the frontlines enforcing immigration laws not support Hillary?
     
  3. yaxomoxay thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Because they're used to enforce laws :)
     
  4. Limey77 macrumors regular

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    Even border control and immigration officers can be idiots - in fact from all my dealings with the I'd suggest it was actually a requirement for the job
     
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    I'm sorry, but I simply do not find this statement to be credible.

    Does anybody think that if the Immigration Officer at JFK or O'Hare believes the person standing in front of him or her is a murder suspect or drug dealer, that they just stamp their passport and tell them to have a nice day?

    Did they get a memo from Barack Obama (or Hillary Clinton, or George W. Bush) telling them to just forget about it?

    Which "corrupt leaders" made them do that? What possible "agenda" could explain that?
     
  6. zin macrumors 6502

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    People don't support Hillary? Resort to name calling. I'm sure that will work this time.

    No wonder law enforcement hates Hillary.
     
  7. Limey77 macrumors regular

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    No, just if their supporting Trump.

    If they actually listened to him then they'd realise his "ideas" are impossible and will only serve to stretch an already stretched service worse.

    No sane or intelligent person can actually believe that Trump's stance on immigration is in any way sound or constitutional. It's a fool's dream spouted to make racist fools feel happy about their ignorance.
     
  8. zin macrumors 6502

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    Enforcing immigration laws is unconstitutional?
     
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    Hillary supported that when it was called a "fence" . Obama supposedly deported more people than Bush. so not spouting the stupidity does not mean they are not working
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rack-obama-deported-more-people-any-other-pr/
    anyways, don't care who the hell endorses anyone.
     
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    Because she hasn't said she wants to triple their numbers. They're voting their pocketbooks.
     
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    He's not talking about those officers. He's most likely talking about the guys manning the border, chasing down criminals and narco-traffickers at night out in the Arizona or Texas desert who are trying to sneak in with drugs, weapons, or people. Those are the guys doing the hard work who get frustrated by the policies of this administration, and by extension, Mrs. Clinton's policies on immigration and law enforcement.

    I know a few ICE agents. They are hardworking guys putting their lives on the line, especially at the southern border. They deserve better support from Washington, clearly, and they believe Trump is a better choice on this issue.
     
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    Not necessarily, but just the way that Trump wants to do so.

    Anyone who for one second believes that "the wall" will be built, let alone that Mexico will pay for it shouldn't be allowed out of the house alone, let alone near a voting booth. It's ridiculous, untenable, childish, stupid, and a thousand other adjectives.

    As rdowns has said, they're voting for their pockets not for policy.
     
  13. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    5,000? That's so cute. Here's a list of unions supporting HRC ... numbering in the millions.
     
  14. zin macrumors 6502

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    How does tripling the number of ICE agents benefit the current agents? He's not promising a pay rise. U.S. Border Patrol tripled in size since 9/11 but Immigration and Customs Enforcement (the agency responsible for removals within the United States) has stayed the same size.

    Can you please read his positions on immigration and tell me which you believe are unconstitutional?

    It's ironic you would say this about Donald Trump, as the only unconstitutional immigration measure that I'm aware of is the one that Hillary Clinton has said she supports (deferred action, which was ruled unlawful in the federal courts).
     
  15. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    • Make Mexico Pay For The Wall — Not unconstitutional, but clearly delusional.
    • End birthright citizenship — that one may be unconstitutional.
    • Requirement to hire American workers first — that one may be unconstitutional. (and for those who advocate hiring the best workers, this one seems like a big Affirmative Action program forcing employers to potentially hire less skilled workers.)
     
  16. zin macrumors 6502

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    Not really. He's managed to get the mainstream media to pay for half of his campaign. ;)
     
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    thats not hard to do. just repeat it 100x times
     
  18. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    Maybe so. But there is pretty much zero evidence to suggest that President Obama's Executive Orders have, in any way, impacted their efforts to do so.

    Now, you might argue that President Obama's Executive Orders regarding priorities in Immigration Enforcement have made it less likely that ICE Agents are going to do a raid to sweep up people working at a poultry processing plant and put them into immigration detention. But those are people who work cutting up chickens. Not drug smugglers or accused murderers.

    If the way that ICE agents define their job effectiveness is sheer numbers of people arrested and detained, the maybe you could say that President Obama has made it more difficult for them to catch illegal chicken processors, construction workers, and landscape contractors.

    But there is less than zero evidence to suggest Obama has made it more difficult to arrest, prosecute, and deport dangerous criminals.
     
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    • Make Mexico Pay For The Wall — Not unconstitutional, but clearly delusional.
    Pass a law that places a heavy fee (10-20%) on all western union wire transfers to Mexico. Use this fee to pay for the wall. Money that would have gone to mexico now goes to the wall, thus, Mexico is paying for it.
     
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    Then they'll use bitcoin.
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    As with most other government workers.

    More union fees, more promotional opportunities, less work to do per worker.
     
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    ****ing brilliant idea, if Western Union was the only way to get money to Mexico. :rolleyes:
     
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    It's a start buddy. It is the most common way. As others are revealed and used they can be addressed. Unless you have a better idea. I see you criticize a lot but I never see you offering any productive ideas. You seem content to just bend over, grab your ankles, and "think of England, my dear".
     
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    What makes you think amending the constitution is unconstitutional?
     
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    Ignorance?
     
  25. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    You don't really think Democratic controlled states would vote in favour?
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    Well other than Bitcoin, the other obvious way would be to bank transfer via Europe.
     

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