The iPhone 5 might actually have some real competition from the Galaxy S III...

[SCARY GAY DAD]

The Android OS is hideous.

Windows Mobile 7, however, is a thing of beauty. For me, if there was no iPhone, I'd be using the Lumia 900 instead.

 

[cotak]

Galaxy S2 was my last phone. I know your going to tell me that the nexus is better because it's pure android. Ok I'll probably agree with you there but the antennas in samsung suck. Their reception is not as strong as my iphone or my last HTC phone. That was a big let down for me. Where I used to never roam I would roam with my sammy. Where I used to have wifi I wouldn't with my sammy.

Really? My Galaxy Nexus works really well in my condo. My iphone 4 could be used to map the multi-path fade of 3G signal while on a call as it's reception was so bad.

 

[ugahairydawgs]

No. I did try the latest iteration on a Moto Xoom tablet and still thought it was a discombobulated mess **** of an OS. I think ICS might be a flashier iteration of a discombobulated **** mess of an OS too.

You could (should) have stopped after the first word.

 

[lordofthereef]

Not talking to me, but I used to have a Samsung Focus. It was about as well made as a Dell Inspiron laptop. I could bend it and flex it like a thick magazine or something. And every single farking time I dropped it (the Focus) the battery cover would pop off, sending the battery one way, the battery cover the exact opposite way, and the phone seemingly the complete opposite way of the battery and the battery cover. Cheap flimsy crap.

That's worse than any bad experience I have ever had and I have had some bad ones. I certainly do hope you were exaggerating about being able to bend it like a phone book. If not, that's terrible. Either way, I haven't seen what i would consider poor quality in the galaxy line.

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I can never get this argument. How can people honestly make this argument? Is it simply because they didn't change the chassis? If the same guts were in a new frame would it be worth a "good" upgrade?

I'm not a fan of other phone platforms but it's nice to see other phones out there pushing the bar up and up. That means apple will have to do the same.

People wanted LTE. Plain and simple. I bet you 90% of people who say the upgrade was bad would stop saying that we didn't get an upgrade, but start saying that the battery life is terrible (even moreso than is being said now).

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I understand that it is exactly double, but he is saying that 1080p is pointless on a 4.8” screen. If so, then 2048x1536 is also equally as pointless on a 9.7” screen, as nothing is in "1536p.” But, they both have their benefits. Text will look amazing on both screens, and I would love a 1080p phone (as well as a “1536p” iPad.)

But that's the thing... it's NOT pointless. Because you are getting that resolution where text looks like printed letters to the naked eye. Going overboard with 2048x1536 was is simply the easiest way for Apple to achieve that without causing the fragmentation that people hate so badly on that other OS.

 

[Scarrus]

Yep, DPI makes something sharper when viewed at a close distance. How close would you hold a 5, 6, 7" phone?

Why keep making screens bigger on what is supposed to be a phone?

I didn't say that myself I want that big of a screen. I was pointing out the reason behind the 1080 resolution on a 4.8" screen.

 

[lordofthereef]

Galaxy S2 was my last phone. I know your going to tell me that the nexus is better because it's pure android. Ok I'll probably agree with you there but the antennas in samsung suck. Their reception is not as strong as my iphone or my last HTC phone. That was a big let down for me. Where I used to never roam I would roam with my sammy. Where I used to have wifi I wouldn't with my sammy.

I will never tell you that. I will tell you to root and ROM. I haven't experienced issues with reception, but I am not the kind of person that will tell you that I had a good experiences therefore there are not bad ones. I will say that bars means nothing. iPhone tends to report a ton of bars all the time for me. I can't say that 5 bars on iPhone are strictly better than 2 bars on another device. From personal experience, if you have reception, you have reception.

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Yep, DPI makes something sharper when viewed at a close distance. How close would you hold a 5, 6, 7" phone?

Why keep making screens bigger on what is supposed to be a phone?

Well, the farthest I would physically be able to hold it is about the length of my arm (maybe 2 feet), though I suspect most people use the iPad at a much closer distance (from observing people in the public using one). I think that is what "retina" is essentially aimed for. Also, I don't know of many 6 or 7 inch phones. I am sure they will come, and continue to flood the market if people decide to buy.

 

[Vegastouch]

Ok, the current Android phones are nice. So!! For the past couple years they have been nice but the iPhone 5 will be a game changer like the 4 was. Thats almost a certainty.

After 15-16 months, thats what everybody said about the 4S. Opps.....you got Siri.....and well, at least it dont drop half your calls like the iP4 does.

What i see here is a lot of sour grapes from posters who are jealous that the Galaxy S is getting yet another upgraded phone with big specs while Apple has given you one the past two years and it wasnt anything special and got passed up by Android.

I do think 4.8" is too big if the overall phone size is increased. If it is the same size as the GS2, then that would be cool, but im guessing it isnt. We'll see when it comes out. Gotta love the quad core though.

Oh and i dont have a problem with Androids eco system. I hate iTunes.

 

[Vegastouch]

Specs... what are specs....? Numbers on paper. Unless it translates into sales, and customer needs/wants, they mean nothing. Just like every other 'iPhone killer' to date.

Nobody is calling it an iPhone killer. There wont be an iPhone killer, The only one that can kill the iPhone is........Apple, with their not so inspriing upgrades and slow to give the public what they want and staying with a small screen.
However, the Galaxy S series is doing very well.
The GS2 has sold over 20 million and 850,000 Android phones get activated everyday. They are doing something right after starting two years after the iPhone came out.

 

[Rennir]

Wow that image looked stunning. I definitely think the SIII will give the iPhone 5 a run for its money, but that was expected considering how well the SII did against the 4S.

For those people saying 3.5" is the best size and that 4.8" is too big, while it may be true for you personally, lots of people prefer 4.8" phones, so that doesn't really challenge the statement that the SIII will provide stiff competition. Also, I like the fact that the image in the link shows that Samsung didn't waste any real estate. Take a look at your iPhone and look at where the screen stops on the top and bottom. Do we really need that much space for the earpiece and the home button? I realize that solely increasing screen size without altering dimensions at all will probably mess up aspect ratio or the like (not much knowledge about this issue), but the fact that there's so much space there leaves the opportunity to increase the iPhone's screen size without dramatically increasing the width. Would that still turn you off from a bigger screen? Just wondering.

I've tried ICS and it is a huge improvement. It's really impressive how far Google has come with Android. I will certainly agree with criticism of previous versions of Android, but ICS is, IMO, almost as good if not just as good as iOS 5. And let's be real: iOS 5 lags too, apps crash on iOS too. Heck, there's even a study out there showing that apps crash more on iOS than Android (although I personally find it dubious).

 

[throAU]

What i see here is a lot of sour grapes from posters who are jealous that the Galaxy S is getting yet another upgraded phone with big specs while Apple has given you one the past two years and it wasnt anything special and got passed up by Android.

I hate to break it to you, but because large parts of android are written in Javascript/Java and not native code, it NEEDS higher spec to run as fast as IOS.

Because it has garbage collection, it NEEDS higher spec hardware to run as smoothly as IOS.

If you're a spec-sheet racer, good for you. In reality, IOS and Android, on identical hardware will perform quite differently.

 

[stevelam]

Exactly!

Steve Jobs said when he unveiled the iPhone 4 that the dpi exceeded what the human eye could see...

"What's the point?"

I love the Retina Display on my iPhone 4S but the color reproduction is nothing compared to Samsung's Super AMOLED screens. Toss in full HD resolution on a 4.8-inch display, and provided they can get close to pushing the display all the way to the edges so the phone isn't monstrous like the ridiculous Galaxy Note, it's going to be positively gorgeous.

you got to be kidding me. i have a samsung galaxy s2. the color reproduction is completely exaggerated to the point where colors become florescent for no reason at all. theres a huge difference when you take a photo and look at it on the phone versus transferring the photo to a good monitor and all of a sudden all these fake vibrant colours are just gone.

 

[lilo777]

I hate to break it to you, but because large parts of android are written in Javascript/Java and not native code, it NEEDS higher spec to run as fast as IOS.

Because it has garbage collection, it NEEDS higher spec hardware to run as smoothly as IOS.

If you're a spec-sheet racer, good for you. In reality, IOS and Android, on identical hardware will perform quite differently.

I hate to break it to you but Objective-C has garbage collection too... and it has nothing to do with perceived slowness in Android. There was a slowness in early versions of Android but it had to do with lack of hardware acceleration in GUI. This changed in Android 3.0. ICS has resolved those issues completely. Even Galaxy SII loaded apps faster than iPhone 4.

 

[Vegastouch]

I hate to break it to you, but because large parts of android are written in Javascript/Java and not native code, it NEEDS higher spec to run as fast as IOS.

Because it has garbage collection, it NEEDS higher spec hardware to run as smoothly as IOS.

If you're a spec-sheet racer, good for you. In reality, IOS and Android, on identical hardware will perform quite differently.

Right, it needs 1080p to run smooth and a quad core processor, etc,etc...lol. Gs2 don't have those specs and neither does the galaxy nexus and both run great, but nice try.

Maybe you arent keeping up with things. You have to remember, Android is two years behind the iPhone when they started and have done a great job where they are now.
It isnt all about the specs, its what the specs are doing with their latest OS, and its only getting better and imo they are ahead of Apple rifght now and with yet another Galaxy upgrade, ...they will be further ahead as it will come out before Apples next version. With any luck, maybe the iPhones Maps be be as good as Androids is right now.

 

[DroidRules]

After 15-16 months, thats what everybody said about the 4S. Opps.....you got Siri.....and well, at least it dont drop half your calls like the iP4 does.


What i see here is a lot of sour grapes from posters who are jealous that the Galaxy S is getting yet another upgraded phone with big specs while Apple has given you one the past two years and it wasnt anything special and got passed up by Android.

If you think all the 4s is about is siri, you really have no clue what you're talkng about.

Did you say something about sour grapes? I think you got a big batch of them. If the 4s was such an inferior why did its graphics smoke everything BUT the iPad2? You say we are jealous but of what? I don't want a 4.8" screen. I don't care about having the fastest processor I want a phone that works well. I want a battery that will last me all day with use. That phone or me is an iPhone, YMMV.

When will people like you on both sides figure this out...... No single phone is best for every person. You like the Galaxy, we like the iPhone and there is room for all of us to have phone we want.

 

[Vegastouch]

If you think all the 4s is about is siri, you really have no clue what you're talkng about.

Did you say something about sour grapes? I think you got a big batch of them. If the 4s was such an inferior why did its graphics smoke everything BUT the iPad2? You say we are jealous but of what? I don't want a 4.8" screen. I don't care about having the fastest processor I want a phone that works well. I want a battery that will last me all day with use. That phone or me is an iPhone, YMMV.

When will people like you on both sides figure this out...... No single phone is best for every person. You like the Galaxy, we like the iPhone and there is room for all of us to have phone we want.

I know it isnt all just about Siri but that is the biggest thing talked about. I understand it got a better antenna and it is faster with a new processor but Siri was the hype. Maps still isnt as good, notifications was a bit of a disapointment (though they DID get them) as was some other things that didnt happen so no, im not clueless, i just chose not to remind everybody that wasnt real happy with the upgrade.

And im with ya on the 'use what you like" statement. I just see time and time again in here how many say " i dont need notifications" and "a 3.5" screen is perfect", " i dont need MMS or copy and paste" and yet when they got it......it was the best thing to happen since sliced bread....LOL

If the iPhone gets a 4.5" screen this place will go nuts saying Steve must have left them his instructions and he is genius...even though they will just be copying the others guys trying to keep up.

Thats not a shot, its just the truth of how it works in here.

 

[MonkeySee....]

1080p doesnt matter the human eye cant notice the difference in quality itll be useless to put that stress on a cellphones processor

Yeah that was my point. Not sure if its worth it when you won't notice it.

Its all a cock waving competition so good luck to them.

 

[djrod]

So… next iPhone with 4" and 1920x1280 ?

 

[marksman]

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I love how they are pushing the limits of smartphones. We need this to move forward. Sorry, but I want to live in the future. Screens are getting larger on smartphones, but also getting thinner...the same for flat screen tv's.

The majority of smartphones sold are 3.5" screens. None of the top 4 selling phones in 2011 had bigger screens. Samsung makes bigger screens to trick people into an inferior product.

 

[Tarzanman]

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The majority of smartphones sold are 3.5" screens. None of the top 4 selling phones in 2011 had bigger screens. Samsung makes bigger screens to trick people into an inferior product.

Top selling phones or top selling smart phones? Also, what is 'bigger'? Bigger than the iPhone's screen or bigger than 4"? Which market are you talking about? All over the world or just in the USA?

....I ask because your statement is wrong depending on how you answer those questions.

 

[Tarzanman]

-EDIT_

I should have prefaced this post by saying that this applies to amorphous ceramics only. Crystalline ceramics are a different animal and have less structural disadvantages

I'm curious about this ceramic case. Anyone have any info on ceramic cased stuff or any ceramic tech? Google doesn't turn up an awful lot at least anything I'm finding helpful. Sounds interesting.

What's there to know? Assuming you've never had a materials eng class.

Ceramics can offer middling strength, high rigidity and lighter weight than metal without interfering with RF signals. They are also usually cheaper than metals like aluminum. Glass is a ceramic (and we all know how well apple has been doing with their glass bodies).

The drawbacks to ceramics are that they have zero elastic modulus. Deform them and they will crack and break (like glass, duh) instead of bending like metal, or being able to take as much punishment as plastic.

Ceramics are pretty darn good at insulating/handling heat, but their shear strength is largely nonexistent. Crack a ceramic case and it won't be long before the entire thing rips along the crack.

Would this make a good material for electronic devices? Not modern smart-phones (which are small computers). As an internal frame material it would not allow the phone to (absorb and) dissipate enough heat, and as an exterior material you'll get cracks breaks and all sorts of other issues.

I see it as a compromise between metal and plastic that does not offer enough advantages over the two other materials used in unison.

It is no mistake that 99.99% of the phones out there are made out of metal and plastic and only use glass for the screen.

Apple decided to be different and its been a rocky road for them so far. I am not saying that it can't be done.... just don't expect any huge revolutions with ceramics.

 

[MonkeySee....]

-EDIT_

I should have prefaced this post by saying that this applies to amorphous ceramics only. Crystalline ceramics are a different animal and have less structural disadvantages




What's there to know? Assuming you've never had a materials eng class.

Ceramics can offer middling strength, high rigidity and lighter weight than metal without interfering with RF signals. They are also usually cheaper than metals like aluminum. Glass is a ceramic (and we all know how well apple has been doing with their glass bodies).

The drawbacks to ceramics are that they have zero elastic modulus. Deform them and they will crack and break (like glass, duh) instead of bending like metal, or being able to take as much punishment as plastic.

Ceramics are pretty darn good at insulating/handling heat, but their shear strength is largely nonexistent. Crack a ceramic case and it won't be long before the entire thing rips along the crack.

Would this make a good material for electronic devices? Not modern smart-phones (which are small computers). As an internal frame material it would not allow the phone to (absorb and) dissipate enough heat, and as an exterior material you'll get cracks breaks and all sorts of other issues.

I see it as a compromise between metal and plastic that does not offer enough advantages over the two other materials used in unison.

It is no mistake that 99.99% of the phones out there are made out of metal and plastic and only use glass for the screen.

Apple decided to be different and its been a rocky road for them so far. I am not saying that it can't be done.... just don't expect any huge revolutions with ceramics.

You have taught me something new today. Thanks for that post

 

[In Like Flynn]

Until they make it out of quality materials, and it doesn't fee like it is going to fall apart, count me out.

Feature wise, for me, the iphone is plenty. It just FEELS so much better in your hands to hold and use.

Is that before or after you put it in a plastic case

 

[Doombringer]

-EDIT_

I should have prefaced this post by saying that this applies to amorphous ceramics only. Crystalline ceramics are a different animal and have less structural disadvantages




What's there to know? Assuming you've never had a materials eng class.

Ceramics can offer middling strength, high rigidity and lighter weight than metal without interfering with RF signals. They are also usually cheaper than metals like aluminum. Glass is a ceramic (and we all know how well apple has been doing with their glass bodies).

The drawbacks to ceramics are that they have zero elastic modulus. Deform them and they will crack and break (like glass, duh) instead of bending like metal, or being able to take as much punishment as plastic.

Ceramics are pretty darn good at insulating/handling heat, but their shear strength is largely nonexistent. Crack a ceramic case and it won't be long before the entire thing rips along the crack.

Would this make a good material for electronic devices? Not modern smart-phones (which are small computers). As an internal frame material it would not allow the phone to (absorb and) dissipate enough heat, and as an exterior material you'll get cracks breaks and all sorts of other issues.

I see it as a compromise between metal and plastic that does not offer enough advantages over the two other materials used in unison.

It is no mistake that 99.99% of the phones out there are made out of metal and plastic and only use glass for the screen.

Apple decided to be different and its been a rocky road for them so far. I am not saying that it can't be done.... just don't expect any huge revolutions with ceramics.

You deserve points for providing this information in a familiar application (as it relates to smartphone construction), and doing so succinctly. As the poster above said, I learned something today. Thank you.

 

[DeathChill]

And im with ya on the 'use what you like" statement. I just see time and time again in here how many say " i dont need notifications" and "a 3.5" screen is perfect", " i dont need MMS or copy and paste" and yet when they got it......it was the best thing to happen since sliced bread....LOL

If the iPhone gets a 4.5" screen this place will go nuts saying Steve must have left them his instructions and he is genius...even though they will just be copying the others guys trying to keep up.

Thats not a shot, its just the truth of how it works in here.

I'm getting pretty tired of this and think it should become a bannable offense.

If you see someone flip-flopping like that, by all means call them out. However, generalizing and pretending like everyone does it is complete bullcrap. I can honestly say I haven't noticed a specific person who hates a feature and then turns around and says how amazing it is once Apple adds it.

 

[nefan65]

After 15-16 months, thats what everybody said about the 4S. Opps.....you got Siri.....and well, at least it dont drop half your calls like the iP4 does.

What i see here is a lot of sour grapes from posters who are jealous that the Galaxy S is getting yet another upgraded phone with big specs while Apple has given you one the past two years and it wasnt anything special and got passed up by Android.

I do think 4.8" is too big if the overall phone size is increased. If it is the same size as the GS2, then that would be cool, but im guessing it isnt. We'll see when it comes out. Gotta love the quad core though.

Oh and i dont have a problem with Androids eco system. I hate iTunes.

I love it when people toss out opinions, or what they heard as fact. I've had the iPhone 3 up to the 4s. I have had no issues of dropped calls, or the dreaded "Antenna Gate".

If you like all the specs, and large screens, good for you. Use it, and enjoy it.

Oh, and I've talked to a few people, and heard how bad the Android eco system is...I agree...utter garbage.