The Iranians are coming the Iranians are coming!

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  1. MacNut macrumors Core

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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/02/10/iran-warships-threat-to-usa-coast/5365335/

    Should we be worried about their sight seeing mission.
     
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    Given they've been detected how is this a future dry run?
     
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    They announced they were coming, I guess this is nothing more than a chest bump, but in 10 years if they got some nasty weapons could they be a threat.
     
  5. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Who knows? Being able to send a ship across the Atlantic isn't a big deal. Christopher Columbus did it in 1492.
     
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    Seems only fair, as the US has been threatening Iran for decades from a lot closer than 14 miles off the coast, and with a lot more meaningful armaments.
     
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    You forgot virtually every one of Iran's neighbours have armed themselves against Iran, and that the Iranian government have killed people in the street protesting against the regime... Wonder why that is....
     
  8. Happybunny, Feb 11, 2014
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    So true, :cool:

    Talking about killing the Americans don't have clean hands either.:(
    Iran Air Flight 655
    The aircraft, which had been flying in Iranian airspace over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf on its usual flight path, was destroyed. All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew, died.[1] Ranking ninth among the deadliest disasters in aviation history, the incident retains the highest death toll of any aviation incident in the Indian Ocean and the highest death toll of any incident involving an Airbus A300 anywhere in the world.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
     
  9. skunk, Feb 11, 2014
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    Virtually every one of Iran's neighbours is a Sunni-dominated country.

    Iran has no history of invading its neighbours.
     
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    I'm sure people who can set up and operate a uranium enrichment plant in the teeth of global opposition and sanctions are fully capable of operating the odd warship.
     
  12. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    John Bolton fanning the flames of war. Shocking!
     
  13. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    That maybe true, but just look what 19 box cutters did, in the hands of motivated people.:eek:
     
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    Bravo. Very well said. A key point which needs to be reiterated at least once per thread where Iran is discussed.
     
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    They probably had some help setting up that operation.
     
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    Is this a totally unsubstantiated opinion, or is there some source available to support the statement?
     
  17. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Dick Cheney might be the only one who knows.

    You would have to be obtuse to think the Iranians developed their own nuclear technology in a bubble.
     
  18. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Whether I am obtuse or not, you still haven't answered my question in the post above. Can you substantiate the assertion, or not?
     
  19. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Feel free to read up:

    http://www.isis-online.org/publications/iran/ISIS_Iran_P2_7Feb2008.pdf

    A complete hack job, and they couldn't even do it correctly.


    We also have reports of Halliburton selling reactor technology to Iran and Dick Cheney attempting to get sanctions lifted so that they could continue to "do business" in the country. Seems a bit suspicious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0giXvhEWMo
     
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    How about:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran
    The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.[1] The participation of the United States and Western European governments in Iran's nuclear program continued until the 1979 Iranian Revolution that toppled the Shah of Iran.[2]

    Also see:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_nuclear_power_in_Iran
     
  22. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Doubtful.

    We've probably got three nuclear attack submarines tracking them and shadowing their every move. We could sink their entire fleet before they even knew what hit them if they tried anything.
     
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    You do know that being a signatory to the NNPT, Iran is allowed to pursue nuclear power/research for medical use, right?

    You do also know that as a signatory to the NNPT, the United States is OBLIGATED to ASSIST them in those endeavors, right?!

    You do know that Iran allows inspections in accordance with the treaty and the reports always say that Iran is compliant and all is well, right?

    You do know that Israel is one of the very very few NUCLEAR WEAPON POSSESSING countries to REFUSE to sign the treaty, (not just once, but every single time; many times) all the while bitching and moaning that everyone else SHOULD, RIGHT?! Just saying.
     
  24. Macky-Mac, Feb 11, 2014
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    iraq is dominated by sunnis? (I suspect any iraqi would claim they're dominated by shi'a).....armenia is dominated by sunnis? They don't seem to be dominated by sunnis either.......Azerbaijan? Like Iran, they tend to be shia.....and what constitutes a "neighbor" for your claim? Russia, like Iran, is on the caspian sea, so are they a neighbor?

    Don't you think you're overstating the situation?

    maybe you need to add some modifiers to this claim to make it more plausible.....after all, over the centuries Iran has had quite a history of conflict, invasion and war making with the neighbors.....even the regime that currently occupies Tehran has a record of military meddling of various sorts with its neighbors.

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    an interesting claim.....this wikipedia article suggests that 4 of the 9 states with nuclear weapons aren't signers of the NPT......which certainly conflicts with your claim
     
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