I thought this was a very enlightening video. I was extremely impressed by Ted Koppel. It's a long video, but worth watching. Basically in a nutshell Ted Koppel and the NPR guy are basically saying the media is so obsessed with Trump, that's all they talk about, and in doing so it makes them look guilty of extreme bias and part of the establishment, that has a negative effect on the viewers, who are basically turned off from the 24/7 hit pieces on Trump, who then start to believe they are fake news and start to side with Trump. This one is much shorter, but Ted Koppel nails it. Basically the MSM, specifically CNN makes a lot of money off Trump. Stelter even admitted CNN gets a 40% boost in ratings and revenue by trashing Trump 24/7, but denies they're doing it for ratings. It appears NPR is about as neutral as you can get for factual reporting, without the spin and bias. NOTE no conservative representative was present. All liberal networks in this interview.