The Last Queen

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  1. decafjava macrumors 68000

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    So, Elisabeth II will be the last monarch of the UK now right?
     
  2. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Umm ... why? No. If she passes, Charles would likely become the new King.
     
  3. matt3526 macrumors regular

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    and William after him and George after him. The monarchy isn't going to collapse anytime soon.
     
  4. lowendlinux Contributor

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    But is it still the UK if there is not Scotland and Ireland?

    At least that's the way I took the post
     
  5. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Scotland and Ireland are still part of the UK, even though they voted to stay in the EU.

    If they voted to stay in the EU, there may be another referendum in those countries to stay in UK & leave EU, or leave UK and stay in EU.

    Regardless, the monarchy will still be active in England. We've had Kings and Queens while we were still at war with Wales/Scotland, etc., so the monarchy is not synonymous with the UK as a whole; just England.
     
  6. Arran macrumors 68040

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    Possibly. It depends on what Scotland does now (leaves uk?) and how long that takes to happen (if it does).

    Scotland obviously wants to stay in the EU, but that's the old EU. What the new EU is going to look like in a few years time (with other prominent countries possibly following the UK's lead and exiting themselves) is anybody's guess right now.

    Who in here has a crystal ball? Care to comment?

    Interesting times.
     
  7. decafjava thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I did write last monarch of the United Kingdom. She (and Charles after her etc.) may just remain as Kings and Queens of England. Well and Canada, Australia and New Zealand too-for now.
     
  8. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    So your question should have been: "will Scotland or Ireland leave the UK". Mentioning monarchy just confuses the issue.
     
  9. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    Ireland is not part of the U.K. the tiny illegal statelet comprising of six Irish counties is.This may well result in Irish reunification.Everyone with family connections to Ireland (a single grandparent will do) is applying for a Irish passport.
     
  10. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Well yes, by Ireland I did mean Northern Ireland :)

    Who knows about Irish reunification. If it means taking the Euro over the Sterling, I don't think it'd happen.
     
  11. Arran macrumors 68040

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    Or "How long will the current Queen remain?"
    Or, "If Scotland was to leave the UK, would the UK still call itself the UK?'
    Or, "What're Wales and NI going to do now, huh?"

    Or, if we want to get really crazy parsing the OP's original question....

    "Hypothetically speaking, if Charles had a sex-change, would he be known as the next Queen?) :eek: :D

    So many questions this morning (although none of the above should be at the top of anyone's list!)
     
  12. decafjava thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks, we're in for a bizzaro few years.
     
  13. Arran macrumors 68040

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    So no change really! :)
     
  14. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    At least they have real royality. America's royality is the Kardashians. :oops:
     
  15. JohnGrey macrumors 6502

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    Given the state of North Sea reserves and Scotland's dependence on the whole of the UK (hence the reason the last referendum failed), I have real doubts that a second referendum will pass, as they have nothing to bring to the table when, not if, they attempt to rejoin the EU. There is a broader question of whether an independent NI could be grandfathered back into the EU by rejoining the ROI.

    That said, were it to happen, I believe Her Majesty would revert to being the Queen of England.
     
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    actually one of the things alex salmond said when they went for independence is that the queen was still theirs just like australia and canada
    --- Post Merged, Jun 24, 2016 ---
    lol your funny
     
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    In a sense your queen is sort of everyone's queen we all have a soft spot for her and the new youngsters have only added to the royal family allure
     
  18. vrDrew, Jun 24, 2016
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    Given the current British laws on succession; and the fact that Elizabeth II currently has not just a son (Charles), but also a grandson (William) and great-grandson (George) in line for the throne - it would appear that the issue of Britain having another Queen at all seem somewhat moot for at least next eighty years or so.

    But we live in an interesting, dynamic world. Who can possibly guess what surprises the next year will bring. Lets alone the next century.
     
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    How much are the Scottish royal properties worth?
     
  21. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Scotland has been dependent on the UK only if you count North Sea oil along Scottish coasts as belonging to the UK rather than Scotland. Also, Scotland has a strategic position guarding the entrance to the Norwegian Sea, the Baltic and the North Sea.

    In any case, the Queen would likely be a ceremonial head of state for an independent Scotland.
     
  22. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    Perfidious Albion got you down?
     
  23. JohnGrey macrumors 6502

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    Who paid for the infrastructure and heavy equipment for developing the North Sea reserves?

    Why would or should she remain your queen when you aren't part of her dominion?
     
  24. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    I wish.
     

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