The left's war on women and freedom of speech

haxrnick

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DYER COUNTY, Tenn. (CNN) – A young girl, who claims she was standing up for her religious beliefs in the classroom, was suspended after breaking a class rule of saying “bless you” after a classmate sneezed.

When Dyer County High School senior Kendra Turner said bless you to her classmate, she says her teacher told her that was for church.

“She said that we’re not going to have godly speaking in her class and that’s when I said we have a Constitutional right,” said Turner.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/kendra-turner-tennessee-high-school-student-suspended-for-saying-bless-you-to-a-classmate-who-sneeze.html

I always feel awkward and weird if someone DOESN'T say bless you to me when I sneeze.

Democrats.
 

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DYER COUNTY, Tenn. (CNN) – A young girl, who claims she was standing up for her religious beliefs in the classroom, was suspended after breaking a class rule of saying “bless you” after a classmate sneezed.

When Dyer County High School senior Kendra Turner said bless you to her classmate, she says her teacher told her that was for church.

“She said that we’re not going to have godly speaking in her class and that’s when I said we have a Constitutional right,” said Turner.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/kendra-turner-tennessee-high-school-student-suspended-for-saying-bless-you-to-a-classmate-who-sneeze.html

I always feel awkward and weird if someone DOESN'T say bless you to me when I sneeze.

Democrats.
War on women? A bit of stretch don't you think? :rolleyes:

I also think that using the term "suspension" makes this story seem worse than it is. From every article I've read, the only suspension she received was finishing that particular class in in-school suspension. Unless you can find word of an actual suspension in another story, the title misleading.

That said, the teacher seems a bit high-strung. That's not a democrat thing, it's an individual thing.
 

zioxide

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Can we have a war on using the phrase "war on"? Because I fail to see how one fairy tale believer not following the rules of her classroom is a "war" on anything.
 

haxrnick

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War on women? A bit of stretch don't you think? :rolleyes:

I also think that using the term "suspension" makes this story seem worse than it is. From every article I've read, the only suspension she received was finishing that particular class in in-school suspension. Unless you can an actual suspension in another story, the title misleading.

That said, the teacher seems a bit high-strung. That's not a democrat thing, it's an individual thing.
The title was simply having fun at they way any lefty on here would have done it. At first I heard she was suspended one day but you seem to be correct on that.

It's purely a democrat thing with the attempt to "ban" anything they don't like.
 

Moyank24

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The title was simply having fun at they way any lefty on here would have done it. At first I heard she was suspended one day but you seem to be correct on that.

It's purely a democrat thing with the attempt to "ban" anything they don't like.
"Purely" a democrat thing? What a ridiculous statement.

In other happy, and way off topic news, the BAN of homosexual marriages in Florida was found to be unconstitutional today. I'm sure the Democrats are really, really upset about that ruling. :D
 

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"Purely" a democrat thing? What a ridiculous statement.

In other, happy, way off topic news, the BAN of homosexual marriages in Florida was found to be unconstitutional today. I'm sure the Democrats are really, really upset about that ruling. :D
Let them suffer like the rest of us.
 

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The teacher is an idiot plain and simple, which isn't just a Democrat or Republican thing. Plenty of idiots on both sides of the aisle.
 

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How do you know the teacher (or the principal, or whoever created the rule) is a Democrat? I see nothing in the article saying that, so please clarify.


In any case, I see this classroom rule running straight up against the Free Exercise clause of the First Amendment. This is assuming there's an actual religious component to the traditional "bless you". The Supreme Court doesn't consider "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, nor "In God We Trust", to be religious, so I'm having trouble seeing how "bless you" would be any more "godly".

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It's purely a democrat thing with the attempt to "ban" anything they don't like.
Please provide supporting evidence for this assertion.
 

haxrnick

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How do you know the teacher (or the principal, or whoever created the rule) is a Democrat? I see nothing in the article saying that, so please clarify.


In any case, I see this classroom rule running straight up against the Free Exercise clause of the First Amendment. This is assuming there's an actual religious component to the traditional "bless you". The Supreme Court doesn't consider "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, nor "In God We Trust", to be religious, so I'm having trouble seeing how "bless you" would be any more "godly".

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Please provide supporting evidence for this assertion.
With my broad brush that is so often used here.
 

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With my broad brush that is so often used here.
So you're admitting that you have no support for the claim, and no idea what the party was that instituted the school rule?

Do you want to report your own posts for breaking forum rules, too?
 

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So you're admitting that you have no support for the claim, and no idea what the party was that instituted the school rule?

Do you want to report your own posts for breaking forum rules, too?
In this instance, it doesn't appear to be a school rule, but a rule that the teacher made up. Apparently she had a list of things the kids can't say.

But, agreed, nowhere in the article does it state the teacher's political affiliations.
 

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Good lord there's some hysterical people in the world. Last year when I was at high school someone put a swastika up on the wall of a classroom, and no-one seemed to care -- I wonder how that would've been received at this school ;)

Also, while I see how this is a violation of freedom of speech, how is it against women in particular? Just because it was a women who happened to be suspended?
 

haxrnick

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So you're admitting that you have no support for the claim, and no idea what the party was that instituted the school rule?

Do you want to report your own posts for breaking forum rules, too?
It's called life experience. I don't need a link or anything of the sort to be able to tell what kind of dumb this is. It isn't a school rule, it's a classroom rule. The people in PRSI could use a little loosening up at times, and God forbid, even joke and smile.

Feel free to report me. Not going to lose sleep over it.
 

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In this instance, it doesn't appear to be a school rule, but a rule that the teacher made up. Apparently she had a list of things the kids can't say.
I assumed, perhaps mistakenly, that the school administrator approved of the classroom rule, either tacitly or overtly. To me, that would make it a school rule, although one that applied to a single teacher's classroom.

If the administrator had overruled the teacher, then it wouldn't be a valid rule at all, but that apparently didn't happen: the administrator didn't overule the teacher.
 

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I assumed, perhaps mistakenly, that the school administrator approved of the classroom rule, either tacitly or overtly. To me, that would make it a school rule, although one that applied to a single teacher's classroom.

If the administrator had overruled the teacher, then it wouldn't be a valid rule at all, but that apparently didn't happen: the administrator didn't overule the teacher.
To be fair, there's not a lot of follow-up. Just that the student finished the period in in-school suspension. The article doesn't address what, if anything, was said to the teacher about her "rules".
 

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"Purely" a democrat thing? What a ridiculous statement.

In other happy, and way off topic news, the BAN of homosexual marriages in Florida was found to be unconstitutional today. I'm sure the Democrats are really, really upset about that ruling. :D

Actually not really. It was only for one case where a gay couple was married and living in another state. Property was owned in Palm Beach by the person that died. Said property was in probate. now it's not. You still can't get a same sex marriage license in the state of Florida.
 

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It's purely a democrat thing with the attempt to "ban" anything they don't like.
Yeah because it's the democrats that want to ban:

- Abortion
- Same-sex marriage
- Social welfare
- Income inequality
 

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While personally I've always found saying "bless you" (or anything else for that matter) to someone sneezing (or coughing, as some do) be pointless and even a bit asinine, I'm not bothered by other people saying it. Furthermore, none of the professors I've had with so-called "liberal agendas" have ever shown any problem with it.
 

haxrnick

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Yeah because it's the democrats that want to ban:



- Abortion

- Same-sex marriage

- Social welfare

- Income inequality

The far right wants to ban abortion.
Not many want to ban gay marriage. We've evolved like Obama so that makes it ok right?
Ban social welfare??
Ban income equality?? Lol
 

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While I've always found saying "bless you" to someone sneezing (or coughing, as some do) be pointless and even a bit asinine, I'm not bothered by other people saying it. Furthermore, none of the professors I've had with so-called "liberal agendas" have ever shown any problem with it.
I'm very liberal myself and also an atheist. I say bless you every time someone sneezes without any religious connotation behind it. I just find it to be polite to do.

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The far right wants to ban abortion.
Not many want to ban gay marriage. We've evolved like Obama so that makes it ok right?
Ban social welfare??
Ban income equality?? Lol
In what world do you live in? :p



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/30/senate-republicans-block-minimum-wage-increase-bill/

http://www.npr.org/2013/10/07/230023627/gops-history-of-resistance-to-social-welfare-programs
 

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Yeah because it's the democrats that want to ban:

- Abortion
- Same-sex marriage
- Social welfare
- Income inequality
This is the first time I've heard anyone try to claim that the Democrats "don't like" those things.

When did their platform change? I haven't been away that long have I?


In what world do you live in? :p
Funny, I was about to ask you the same thing....
 

aerok

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This is the first time I've heard anyone try to claim that the Democrats "don't like" those things.

When did their platform change? I haven't been away that long have I?




Funny, I was about to ask you the same thing....
It was sarcasm because Harnix said Democrats love asking for a ban for anything they don't like. The same can be said about the GOP, the same can be said for any political group.