The Obama junta is pressuring software companies to surrender source code for surveillance purposes

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    jun·ta
    ˈho͝on(t)ə/
    noun
    1. a military or political group that rules a country after taking power by force.

    Please explain how winning two elections fair and square is "taking power by force"
     
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    And people wonder why it wouldn't be great to make the USA into a full fledged socialist country! If that's what we were, Apple wouldn't have any say in what happened to their intellectual property--the government could do what they wanted with it.
     
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    I get the impression that the left is just as pissed about this as the right, maybe more so.

    This should be an easy one to combine forces against.
     
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    You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the words you try to use.
     
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    except the left & the right are only interested in doing something when the "other" side is being evil.
     
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    Right-wingers are literally the only people who want software companies to turn over or create vulnerable code.

    No one on the Left is calling for this.
    (preemptive note: President Obama is not a "Leftist")
     
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    Dianne Feinstein is not a "Leftist", either.
     
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    democrats then. ;)
     
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    Former San Fran mayor Di-Fi is as liberal & leftist as they come.
     
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    A center-Right political party.
     
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    pray/say/tell what do you consider leftist?
     
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    You couldn't be more wrong...
     
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    Another nugget of proof that you couldn't be more wrong...
     
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    You are confusing words. Liberals are not the Left. Not here, not anywhere in the world. Liberalism is a centrist ideology. There is not functional Left in the U.S., none that has any power.
     
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    You impress the entire room when your argument consists of a lame insult, BC.

    Oh, and:

    Socialism: a social system or theory in which the government owns and controls the means of production (as factories) and distribution of goods.​
     
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    Wikipedia definitions are hardly the arbiter of ultimate truth of anything... if you think it is we have further evidence your posts can be discredited as having no substance to back them up.
     
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    You have to agree with his contention that the Left in this country isn't functional.
     
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    From the link you posted:

    1. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2. 2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private propertyb : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3. 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
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    You are free to post counter evidence. That's how this debate thing goes, if you are new to it.
     
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    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

    -- C.S. Lewis
     
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    Oh, so now you think it would be a good thing if we went full-on with collectivization like every other failed Commie country? I'm sure that would be better for Apple than just the government owning their intellectual property.
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    Bent christian can ALWAYS be more wrong. It's his super power.
     
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    You are deflecting again.

    What about collective ownership of production would force software companies to turn over or add vulnerabilities to their code, against the will of the People, as you asserted here:

    What is it about collective ownership of production that would make the Constitution and due process not apply?
     

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