The President Trump Agenda

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  1. Huntn, Nov 9, 2016
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    How much of it is real, possible, or a pipe dream? I'm going to use this thread to keep track. I've highlighted the positive, interesting, and alarming promises he made.

    Update:

    Trump Administration Start date 20Jan17





    Trump Campaign Promises
    Source: The Washington Post with supporting videos and tweets.

    General observations: You Trumpets were worried about Hillary being a war monger? Trump's statements have been very hawkish and war monger like. The greatest jobs President ever? Bring it on! :) I actually support ending birthright citizenship if the parents are in the country illegally and will be deported.

    Pie in the Sky: I'd be thrilled if he can make corporations bring back jobs. Let's see how far he gets with a pro-business Congress who only gives a damn about corporate welfare and profits. Bring back the American Dream? Check with me in 4 years.

    My fear: The combination of a man who values vengeance and hitting back with a Department of Justice of his choosing. Will laws be followed, or will there be behind the scenes arm twisting and fabricating of evidence? Hopefully if it's his method, he won't be able to flush everyone with integrity.

    His challenges:
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      • Not only instituting a huge list of $$$ improvements from infrastructure, to the military, saving social security, but......PAYING FOR IT.
      • Replace Obamacare with something terrific means he's going to have to overhaul our medical and legal system.
      • Looking forward to the magic of saving social security, medicare, and medicaid. :)
      • Trade Deals- Will he renegotiate or just kill existing trade deals?
    His mistakes in the making:



      • The Wall is a huge expensive mistake. There are easier ways by focusing on employers. And I don't see Mexico paying for it.
      • Picking on, databasing, discriminating against Muslims.
      • Get rid of the EPA. Whoa baby. The environment can take care of itself... I guess. :(
      • Prosecuting Hillary Clinton. I don't see that happening.
      • Alienating our allies in the Middle East because they are Muslims.
      • Bring back torture (waterboarding), REALLY?
      • If he continues with the kind of divisive rhetoric he's used for the last 2 years, I don't see him accomplishing much.
      • De-fund Planned Parenthood is in direct conflict with his pledge to cherish and help women.
    1. Build a wall along the southern border that's taller than the arenas where Trump holds his rallies, taller than any ladder and one foot taller than the Great Wall of China. This "artistically beautiful" wall will be constructed out of hardened concrete, rebar and steel, and it will be "the greatest wall that you've ever seen" -- so great that the nation will likely one day name it "The Trump Wall."

    2. Make Mexico pay for the wall. If Mexico refuses, then the United States will impound all remittance payments taken from the wages of illegal immigrants, cut foreign aid, institute tariffs, cancel visas for Mexican business leaders and diplomats, and increase fees for visas, border-crossing cards and port use. Jan 2016 Update: Trump Backtracks, Says Taxpayers, Not Mexico, Will Pay For His Wall

    3. "If I become president, we're all going to be saying 'Merry Christmas' again."

    4. Get rid of Common Core because it's "a disaster" and a "very bad thing." Trump says he wants to give local school districts more control and might even eliminate the Department of Education.

    5. The Environmental Protection Agency might also disappear.

    6. Get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something "terrific" that is "so much better, so much better, so much better." Jul 2017 Update- The GOP counter to Obamacare fails because the GOP can't agree on the best way to sabotage it. Trump does nothing, has expressed no ideas about what terrific health consists of, has spent minimal energy acting as a GOP cheerleader for the Party of No.

    7. Knock down the regulatory walls between states for health insurance, making plans available nationally instead of regionally.

    8. Rebuild the country's aging infrastructure -- especially bridges and airports that look like they belong in a third-world country -- for one-third of what the United States is currently paying for such projects.

    9. Save Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security without cutting benefits.

    10. Defund Planned Parenthood.

    11. "I will take care of women, and I have great respect for women. I do cherish women, and I will take care of women."

    12. Frequently use the term "radical Islamic terrorism."

    13. Temporarily ban most foreign Muslims from entering the United States "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." Trump would allow exceptions for dignitaries, business people, athletes and others who have "proven" themselves.

    Republican presidential contender Donald Trump said on Dec. 7 that he was in favor of a '"total and complete" shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. (C-SPAN)

    14. Bar Syrian refugees from entering the country and kick out any who are already living here. Trump says wealthy Persian Gulf nations like Saudi Arabia should pay to set up a heavily guarded "safe zone" in Syria.

    15. Heavily surveil mosques in the United States. Trump has said he's open to the idea of closing some mosques.

    16. Create a database of Syrian refugees. Trump hasn't ruled out creating a database of Muslims in the country.

    17. Never take a vacation while serving as president.

    18. Prosecute Hillary Clinton for her use of a private e-mail server while serving as secretary of state.

    19. Make medical marijuana widely available to patients, and allow states to decide if they want to fully legalize pot or not.

    20. Stop spending money on space exploration until the United States can fix its potholes. Encourage private space-exploration companies to expand.

    21. Pick Supreme Court justices who are "really great legal scholars."

    22. Ensure that Iowa continues to host the nation's first presidential nominating contest.

    23. Strengthen the military so that it's "so big and so strong and so great" that "nobody's going to mess with us."

    24. Be unpredictable. "No one is going to touch us, because I'm so unpredictable."

    25. Allow Russia to deal with the Islamic State in Syria and/or work with Russian President Vladimir Putin to wipe out shared enemies.

    26. "Bomb the s--- out of ISIS." Also bomb oil fields controlled by the Islamic State, then seize the oil and give the profits to military veterans who were wounded while fighting.

    27. Target and kill the relatives of terrorists.

    28. Shut down parts of the Internet so that Islamic State terrorists cannot use it to recruit American children.

    29. Bring back waterboarding, which the Obama administration considers torture. Trump has said he's willing to use interrogation techniques that go even further than waterboarding. Even if such tactics don't work, "they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing."

    30. Leave troops in Afghanistan because it's such "a mess." Protect Israel. And increase U.S. military presence in the East and South China Seas.

    31. Find an "out" clause in the Iran deal and then "totally" renegotiate the whole thing.

    32. "I promise I will never be in a bicycle race. That I can tell you." (This promise is connected to criticism of Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who was injured while riding a bicycle amid the Iran negotiations.)

    33. Refuse to call Iran's leader by his preferred title. "I guarantee you I will be never calling him the Supreme Leader... I'll say, 'Hey baby, how ya doing?' I will never call him the Supreme Leader."

    34. Negotiate the release of all U.S. prisoners held in Iran before taking office. (Five hostages were recently released, including Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaian; Trump has taken some credit for this.)

    35. Oppose the killing of journalists: "I hate some of these people, but I would never kill them."

    36. Find great generals -- like the next Gen. Patton or Gen. MacArthur -- and do not allow them to go onto television news shows to explain their military strategy: "I don't want my generals being interviewed, I want my generals kicking a--." Trump likes generals who are rough, foul-mouthed and beloved by their troops.

    37. Drop that "dirty, rotten traitor" Bowe Bergdahl out of an airplane into desolate Afghanistan without a parachute.

    38. Fire "the corrupt and incompetent" leaders of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and dramatically reform the agency. Allow veterans to take their military identification card to any medical facility that accepts Medicaid patients to receive care. Embed satellite VA clinics in rural hospitals and underserved areas, and ensure than every VA hospital is permanently staffed with OBGYN doctors.

    39. Invest more heavily in programs that help military veterans transition back to civilian life, including job training and placement services. Also increase funding for the treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injuries and mental health issues. Veterans who apply for a job at a VA facility will have five points added to their qualifying scores.

    40. Bring back jobs from China -- and Mexico, Japan and elsewhere.

    41. "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created." Trump says cities like Reno, Nev., will "be a big fat beautiful beneficiary" of these new jobs.

    42. Students at Wofford College in South Carolina, where Trump attended a town hall, will all have jobs at graduation.

    43. Aggressively challenge China's power in the world by declaring the country a currency manipulator, adopting a "zero tolerance policy on intellectual property theft and forced technology transfer" and cracking down on China's "lax labor and environmental standards."

    44. Rather than throw the Chinese president a state dinner, buy him "a McDonald's hamburger and say we've got to get down to work."


    45. Replace "free trade" with "fair trade."
    Gather together the "smartest negotiators in the world," assign them each a country and renegotiate all foreign trade deals.

    46. Put billionaire hedge fund manager Carl Icahn in charge of trade negotiations with China and Japan, and pick an ambassador to Japan who is "a killer," unlike the current ambassador, Caroline Kennedy.

    47. Tell Ford Motor Co.'s president that unless he cancels plans to build a massive plant in Mexico, the company will face a 35 percent tax on cars imported back into the United States. Trump is confident he can get this done before taking office. (Last year he incorrectly said this had already happened.)

    48. Force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States. And bully Apple into making its "damn computers" and other products here.

    49. Impose new taxes on many imports into the country. Numbers thrown around have included 32 percent, 34 percent and 35 percent.

    50. Grow the nation's economy by at least 6 percent.


    51. Reduce the $18 trillion national debt
    by "vigorously eliminating waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government, ending redundant government programs and growing the economy to increase tax revenues."

    52. Cut the budget by 20 percent by simply renegotiating.

    53. Get rid of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.

    54. Simplify the U.S. tax code and reduce the number of tax brackets from seven to four. The highest earners would pay a 25-percent tax. The corporate tax rate would fall to 15 percent. Eliminate the "marriage penalty" for taxpayers and get rid of the alternate minimum tax.

    55. No longer charge income tax to single individuals earning less than $25,000 per year or couples earning less than $50,000. These people will, however, be required to file a one-page form with the Internal Revenue Service that states: "I win."

    56. Ensure that Americans can still afford to golf.

    57. Allow corporations a one-time window to transfer money being held overseas, charging a much-reduced 10 percent tax.

    58. Get rid of most corporate tax loopholes or incentives, but continue to allow taxpayers to deduct mortgage interest and charitable donations from their taxes.

    59. On his first day in office, Trump would get rid of gun-free zones at military bases and in schools.

    60. Use "common sense" to fix the mental health system and prevent mass shootings. Find ways to arm more of the "good guys" like him who can take out the "sickos." Get rid of bans on certain types of guns and magazines so that "good, honest people" can own the guns of their choice.


    61. Impose a minimum sentence of five years in federal prison for any violent felon who commits a crime using a gun, with no chance for parole or early release.

    62. Fix the background check system used when purchasing guns to ensure states are properly uploading criminal and health records.

    63. Allow concealed-carry permits to be recognized in all 50 states.

    64. Sign an executive order calling for the death penalty for anyone found guilty of killing a police officer.

    65. Provide more funding for police training.

    66. And provide more funding for drug treatment, especially for heroin addicts.

    67. On the first day in office, terminate President Obama's executive orders related to immigration. This includes getting rid of "sanctuary cities" that Trump says have become refuges for criminals.

    68. Deport the almost 11 million immigrants illegally living in the United States.

    69. Triple the number of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers.

    70. Continue to allow lowly paid foreign workers to come to the United States on temporary works visas because Trump says they are the only ones who want to pick grapes.

    71. End birthright citizenship.

    72. Say things that are politically incorrect, because the country does not have time to waste with political correctness.

    73. Make America great again
    -- and strong again, as it has become too weak.

    74. Be a cheerleader for America and bring the country's spirit back. "Take the brand of the United States and make it great again."

    75. Bring back the American Dream.

    76. Start winning again. "We're going to win so much -- win after win after win -- that you're going to be begging me: 'Please, Mr. President, let us lose once or twice. We can't stand it any more.' And I'm going to say: 'No way. We're going to keep winning. We're never going to lose. We're never, ever going to lose."

    Added Aug 2017:
    77. Save Coal. Aug 2107- Nope, no soup for you!
    78. Afghanistan-
    Trump goes back in his promise to get out of our longest war, sending a token number of new troops there. I listened to Tillerson make the same pitch we've heard before. The problem? Been there and done that for way too long as it is.
     
  2. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    President Trump's 100 Day Plan (pdf link):

    Article link

    Clean Up DC:

    • FIRST, propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.
    • SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce the federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health).
    • THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.
    • FOURTH, a five-year ban on White House and Congressional offi cials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.
    • FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House offi cials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.
    • SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.Seven actions to protect

    American Workers:
    • FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205.
    • SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacifi c Partnership.
    • THIRD, I will direct the Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.
    • FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately.
    • FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
    • SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.
    • SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.

    Five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:

    • FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama.
    • SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution.
    • THIRD, cancel all federal funding to sanctuary cities.
    • FOURTH, begin removing the more than two million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.
    • FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people into our country will be considered “extreme vetting.


    Middle Class Tax Relief and Simplification Act
    An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with two children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from seven to three, and tax forms will likewise be greatly
    simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35% to 15%, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate
    money overseas can now be brought back at a 10% rate.

    End the Offshoring Act

    Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship
    their products back to the U.S. tax-free.

    American Energy and Infrastructure Act
    Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over ten years. It is revenue neutral.

    School Choice and Education Opportunity Act

    Redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or
    home school of their choice. Ends Common Core and brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and makes two- and four- year college more affordable.

    Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act

    Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across
    state lines and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are
    over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.

    Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act

    Allows Americans to deduct childcare and eldercare from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-site childcare services and creates tax-free dependent care savings accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.

    End Illegal Immigration Act

    Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country of Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a two-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a five-year mandatory minimum
    federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs
    are offered to American workers first.

    Restoring Community Safety Act

    Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a task force on violent crime and increasing funding for
    programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.

    Restoring National Security Act

    Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values.

    Clean Up Corruption in Washington Act

    Enacts new ethics reforms to drain the swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.
     
  3. oneMadRssn macrumors 68040

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    Forget 100 days. He has two years of guaranteed congressional majority. Let's see how much of this he can get done, with enough time to spare to show it has had positive changes before the midterm election.
     
  4. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    Unless something pops up, like charges, we are basically stuck with this man for some period of time. For now I'll hope for the best because I can engage in fantasy too. :p
     
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    I think I'd actually prefer a President Trump over a President Pence, so let's hope nothing comes up.

    That said, if they both happy to die in some kind of climate-change-caused natural disaster (ironically), I would not be shedding tears.
     
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    It never ceases to amaze me when the left trivializes the death of someone they loathe, while trying to claim they are the compassionate ones who care.
     
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    And then they whine about those mean righties calling that nasty woman a bitch.
    Sad.
     
  8. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but I don't take a lot of what Trump said on the Campaign Trail very seriously. A good three quarters of what he talks about is nigh-on impossible. A Constitutional Amendment imposing Term Limits? Who do you think votes on that first?

    The auto manufacturers will tell Trump, in no uncertain terms, that pulling out of NAFTA will destroy the domestic auto industry. Not just Ford and GM - but Mercedes, BMW, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, etc. - they all rely on inexpensive, top quality parts built in Mexican maquiladora cities to be competitive. Slap a massive tariff on those parts, and you would be adding several thousand dollars to the price of a new car.

    Ditto for starting a trade war with China.

    His tax cut proposals would have to go through the Congressional Budget Office. And when members of Congress see the sticker price, I think they'll start worrying about losing their jobs. Who wants to be the Congressman who voted to increase the deficit by $120 trillion in the next decade?

    Cutting the FDA and EPA? Again, that's going to require Congressional approval.

    Banning "foreign lobbyists"? Doesn't he realize that most of those people are a) former Congressmen; b) are US citizens; and c) have a Constitutional right to petition their Government. Even if it is for pay, and on the behalf of the Government of Burundi.

    The "eliminate two regulations for each new one" idea is almost certainly unConstitutional.
     
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    How can eliminating regulations be unconstitutional?
     
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    Good. Let's wish next generation iPhone price does not increase ten fold.
     
  11. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    I'm pretty much convinced he was conning making a sales pitch to his suckers, I mean Trumpets.
     
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    He put it in writing, so there is some record to hold him to.
     
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    These ideas and policies are too rudimentary, unpredictable in outcome and one-dimensional to be successfully implemented. It's like someone trying to play checkers when it's a game of chess; "if I make this decision, what will be the outcome from 'a,' 'b,' 'c,' etc?," and then planning decisions after that.

    To add to this, it's well-known that Trump takes 2 sides to many of the issues, some that are total opposites (he said he was pro-life once and then pro-choice). The same could be said for Hillary but she lost. Just look up Trump flip flopping on YouTube to see it in action.

    Considering all this, if I'm thinking rationally I don't know what he will do. I think he will either take the populist road or take the neocon road, and given the GOP congress and flaky/controversial transition team associates, I'm leaning towards the latter.
     
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    Agreed. Everything to get elected. Much like with Brexit I think they only now will gradually start to think about what they actually might do - no real plan so far.
    Although what he did accomplish already and I doubt he will suddenly become oh so presidential is mudding the waters (understatement). Radical right wing movements all around the world are applauding him. I foresee a disturbing vote next year in Germany.

    Other than the usual doubling down on "security" (militarization of poliec or did that happen already countrywide? Gitmo's torture chambers re-opened), tax-cuts for the 1% and cuts for the cultural/educational/social to finance some nonsense stuff I don't see him changing THAT much in politics (crossing fingers and wishful thinking though). But he truly ain't a politician but more of a leader of movement - so I do see a lot of change in the realms of your society - the gap will widen.

    Unless of course he shares the fate of Bush jr. and happens to stumble upon incidents of historic proportions. 9/11 and the financial crisis. Both probably handled in the worst ways possible at that time (although people tend to stick to what they have in times of crisis, see him re-elected) - and I actually don't won't to think about how a president Trump would have responded to both of them. *shivers*
     
  15. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    Trump and Blind Trusts. Donald Trump will be unique in having the highest level of business related conflicts of interest of any President ever. It's been estimated that his company has property/business relationships in 22 countries. As President he would be able if he chose to, to make decisions keeping his economic interests in mind. During the campaign he promised to turn over his business to his children, but also said he'd put it into a blind trust. This is a binary choice, a blind trust would be incompatible with his kids running his business. And blind trusts have been a defacto standard with past Presidents.

    I anticipate he will never go the blind trust route and to maintain some level of control will make himself susceptible to conflict of interest charges with many of the decisions he'll have to make as President.

    4 Questions About Donald Trump's Potential Conflicts Of Interest If He's Elected
     
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    Good the there wasn't a conflict of interest with the Clinton Foundation.
     
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    He never intended to turn his holdings over to a blind trust. He will still be managing his holdings even if his children have the titles.
     
  18. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    There is a significant difference between you business and your charity. All you have on TCF is politically motivated right wing accusations. No? How about a link with substance, not right wing hysteria.
     
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    Speaking of accusations and hysteria.
     
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    Elections have consequences, and you dance with the ones that brought you. Trump is going to do for his electorate the same types of things Obama, and almost every President before them did for the people that put them in power, liberals have had their way, with the ACA, Gay Marriage, Executive Amnesty, Abortion Rights, the list goes on and on.

    I'm really sorry liberals can't deal with the fact that now, the people in power will get some of the things they want, Lower Corporate tax, an end to the myth of man made climate change being solved by Tax. Drilling and fracking our own natural resources, rather than funding those who hate us. Deporting criminal illegal immigrates, and the list goes on.
     
  21. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    As usual, he said what he needed to say to deflect the issue.
    --- Post Merged, Nov 10, 2016 ---
    ...yes, please calm down. :)
     
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    Trump does not except accountability
     
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    I don't give a damn what he expects, he works for us, not us working for him.
     
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    You get what you pay for.
     

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