The Psychology of the EU Referendum

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    I have a theory about the referendum:

    The Remain vote was handicapped because of the connotations of the words 'Remain' and 'Leave'. These two words came to define whether you were for Europe or against it.

    The word 'remain', however, tends to have negative associations. 'The remains of the day'. "Remain as you are", an order with military or even prison connotations. "All that remained were a few dregs."

    Leave, on the other hand, is a stronger word. "We are going to leave this awful union, come what may."

    So subliminally, voters leaned towards the right choice, which was Leave.
     
  2. blackfox macrumors 65816

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    Interesting analysis. Until the last sentence...
     
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    Yeh or maybe they were tired of the EUs ****.
     
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    Generally yeah, if you scare people into believing that it's something scary ("it's LEAVE, or REMAIN."), then you can manipulate votes if you know how to do it.

    Also, I'm curious to know your opinion about whether the UK should have left the EU in 5 years. Come on, set a reminder :)
     
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    Thank you for your kind words.

    You're right concerning my last sentence: I'm giving voters too short shrift. They were probably wise enough to choose the right decision without the need for the subliminal nudge.
     
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    Oh, may I reference the thread about Britons googling the EU...it would seem the opposite is the case.
     
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    Wow! The rarest of the rarest: a good rap song.

    I look forward to Apple promoting this on the front page of iTunes and Apple Music.
     
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    This song is the top download on iTunes (you'll have to complete the URL yourself.)
     
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    My favorite tweet from last night was one where a guy commented that you gotta love the 20 people from Newcastle who checked off both boxes. Spoiled ballots of course, but those voters could go home and speak freely to any of their friends of either persuasion about how they voted... wow!

    For the OP, you could have a point. Remain does sound more passive, or at least less exciiting, than Leave.
     
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    Thanks, Miss Kat.

    That is also a good point; there is something condescending about Remain, and, yes, dull. Leave is more exciting. Why vote for the same bland stasis of the past 40 years?
     
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    Well once that next Brit PM pulls the trigger or Article 50, it's possibly going to be far more exciting than some may have figured. For about ten, fifteen years. Imagine undoing 40 years of embracing the EU in so many ways that affect what's on your breakfast table, your agenda at work, where you can look for work, etc. I'm not sure all those voting for Leave's "excitement" really had any grasp of the far reach of the changes they were advocating. Out now! sounds great. Getting there? The slog of it all...

    Maybe some good paydays for lawyers. Real grunt work though.
     
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    Not sure how the EU has affected what's on my plate of Full English breakfast. Same old pig's blood, etc.

    No non-English ingredients required.
     
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    No bananas, eh? ;)
     
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    bananas do not come from anywhere in europe.

    we will gladly sell plenty to the brits, no problem there.

    on a more serious note, why would any brit vote to remain in the EU is beyond me. if EU kicked out the turd, corrupt countries out they would not need to brexit, but...
     
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    All the people online whose comments I've read discuss either one of two underlying reasons:

    * tired of "globalization" that the left is said to be pushing
    * tired of "globalization" the right is said to be pushing

    Whether "globalization" includes terrorism issues, immigration issues, economic issues (real or perceived), and/or other -- pretty much every opinion is out there. But there is no theory right now. Only supposition as to what might happen. Far more variables exist among those who voted to leave and as there is no consensus, to say they did the right thing makes just as little sense. I should invest in popcorn companies because there's going to be a lot of buttery corn going on for a while.

    I won't sit here and say "They left, it was the right thing to do". I could say it's the wrong thing and list a bunch of reasons. And I could likely be wrong with that list. Which is why I can't sit here and make supposition over if what they did was right or wrong.
     
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    And now that the Brussels won't be dictating the length, width, and color of bananas sold in the U.K. you can sell a lot more of them.
     
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    But isn't that why they left the EU, because they hate globalization and want isolation? That's what some commenters on political forums are clearly implying or outright saying. Which means they might not want your bananas today. Now what? Please don't say "They'll go bananas", even if they do.

    Now I may have missed out on the memo as to what sort of benefits leaving will create. You wouldn't have a copy of the list for us to read so we can be edified as well?
     
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    ain't the benefit of not having to pay for corrupt greeks debt enough? would surely be for me.

    socialism NEVER works, wake up and smell the damn cofee
     
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    They never did (at least not any more than previous UK law) - yet another fallacy of the leave campaign but one that still survives. Hence why so many people were hoodwinked into voting leave - they had no idea what or why they were voting other than lies and fallacies.
     
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    I would have further simplified the voting terms:

    Brexit

    or Breastay
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Regulation_(EC)_No._2257/94
     
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    Don't you find it even remotely silly that it was an issue in the first place? Saying it wasn't informed completely misses the point. The point is the EU is so screwed up that it thinks it needs a regulation for the dimensions of a flipping banana.
     
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    What's so great about mushy bananas?
     

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