The real reason Americans vote republican party?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Bubble99, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. Bubble99 macrumors 6502

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    I remember reading news articles other day, saying the real reason why half Americans keep voting in the republican party every election!! The real reason why half Americans are very divided!! And always been like that for very long time. The country has no majority or unity but very divided country.

    Going on to say the giant flaw in the left-progressive construct, and their refusal to even begin grappling with it is what keeps the left chasing its tail over the great Kansas mystery and never getting any closer to answering their question!!! Why do so many hard working and middle-class even poor white males vote against what is obviously their own best interests?

    I can tell you why. They do so out of spite.

    If you’re miserable you don’t want to be told what’s best for you by someone who’s correct–it’s sort of like being occupied by a foreign army with good intentions.

    Spite voting is mostly a white male phenomenon, which is why a majority of white males vote Republican. It comes from a toxic mix of thwarted expectations, shame, and you better than me mentality.

    Of like how dare some one from Los Angeles or New York tell use what to do and how things should be run here especially if you from the south.

    If the left wants to understand American voters it needs to understand psychology and sociology not economics and politics and doing election keep economics and politics out and talk in terms of psychology and sociology.

    And going on to say talk in terms that people from non big cities by coat can understand and relate to. In simple way we not from Los Angeles or New York why should we care what is going on in Los Angeles or New York and why tell us what to do here.

    It interesting because main stream media will never and I say again never talked about this at all or how someone running for politics should talk to people there. It will change democracy and the electoral college.
     
  2. MacNut macrumors Core

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    If we go by this logic we will never agree on anything every again. The majority of americans live on a coast. Or to be more specific near a big city. The midwest sorry to say is sparsely populated and the coasts will never live like that. The north and south have different cultures and have for 100 of years. So we will always have a political divide. I just see it spreading farther apart and not closer.

    Plus we keep getting polarizing candidates. I don't care what Trump says he can't bring the country together. Much like Obama couldn't.
     
  3. Fancuku macrumors 6502a

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    Whoever wrote this couldn't be more wrong.
     
  4. Bubble99 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    So you are saying politics in US is more like cultures and like religious thing than really any economics and political thing.
     
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    What he's saying is that despite the midwest states carrying more political weight for swinging the other way from what they usually do in 99% of test cases, the peoples opinion means about piss all because the coastal states and large cities guide the country, not Joe Schmoe and his potato farm, even if Joe Shmoe is a multimillionaire.

    People thrive on being different to set them apart from the next person in line. It's said to be hardwired into our species.
     
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    People on the west coast complain that the east coast doesn't pay attention to them, most of that is a time difference but mainly because the east coast is where the majority of the population lives. The center of the country is just lost in the shuffle. We can take this all the way back to 1776 where the first 13 states are. It's engrained in the history of the country. The original 13 colonies formed this country. Everyone else is just along for the ride.
     
  7. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    The propaganda from the right is off the charts .......That's the REAL reason.
     
  8. shinji macrumors 65816

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    There are Democrats who can attract middle class or working class white voters, even in the South. I have no doubt Biden would've soundly beaten Trump, even picking up votes across the aisle from Republicans skeptical of a thrice-divorced casino owner who mocks veterans.

    Other Democrats can't even do that, as we just saw.
     
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    An American political party that ceases to champion American workers and becomes an advocate for non-Americans, globalist elites, and transnational corporate entities should not expect the American worker's support.
     
  10. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    gosh....that doesn't leave any party that American workers can support does it? :p
     
  11. Bubble99 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Not sure what you mean here unless you mean Trump is pro American workers , anti-globalist elites, anti-corporate entities and Harry Clinton was pro globalist elites, pro corporate entities and anti- American workers.
     
  12. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Trump loves American workers so much his merchandise was made in China...
     
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    An american friend was talking about this on Facebook, asking why so many of her fellow americans don't want socialised healthcare. There's no real answer for it. It's like they're scared of someone else getting something from their money, but they don't know they're that "someone". Why shoot yourself in the foot and then go into debt over it? It's got to be spite, or narcissism.
     
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    Well, that's both parties to be clear.
     
  15. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    That is no where near the reason. They have been giving my money to other people as long as I have been paying taxes.

    It is all about care. The US Government can't run anything efficiently and even though most users on here from the UK and Canada seem to be happy with their healthcare, the idea that there are month(s) long waits to see a Dr. has scared people away from socialized medicine. Whether or not these waits actually exist is not the issue, it is people's perception and sometimes that is reality.
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    I agree, but the tide seems to be turning from what used to be a solid dem block into a slightly GOP block. That doesn't bode too well for the dems.

    So the left can chastise the non-college educated white male voter for being stupid all they want. There are an awful lot of them so it is best not to piss them off.
     
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    My opinion why approximately half of the people vote Republican thus making this a divided country is because the people in power (usually rich people) want it that way. The more we (Democrats and Republicans) bicker amongst ourselves the better off the rich are, for they can just coast under the radar and laugh at us while they go to the bank.
     
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    I presume people voted Republican because they thought it was in their best interests. In some aspects they might be right. Even in the UK after Brexit, when everybody predicted financial chaos, the £ plummeted, and this benefited the people who work in manufacturing, who voted for Brexit. Of course the price to be paid for this will be inflation and higher interest rates on everything from government debt to cars. We'll see if Trump has any good impact on the people who voted for him. I predict there might be some short-term gains, just like the UK, but the long-term damage will take a generation to heal, just like the UK.
     
  18. Bubble99 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    That mostly because of the long ER wait times 4 hours to 6 hours ER wait times in Canada and a month or two to see specialist or month or two to have surgery done.

    There is major shortage of doctors and specialists in Canada and the UK.
     
  19. R.Perez macrumors 6502

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    LOL, you've never been to an ER in a large US city have you? 4 hour wait times are quite common place.

    Edit: Also, why is Canada and the UK the only comparison point ever? First, Canada's system is better than the UK's, but neither are considered leaders in healthcare.
     
  20. zioxide macrumors 603

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    4 to 6 hours is nothing in places like Boston or NYC.
     
  21. mudslag macrumors regular

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    Technically speaking, more Americans voted Democrat then Republican. Just most were in states that already leaned left. Around 100 million potential voters didn't vote this year.
     
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    Probably because almost everyone in the US knows at least one Canadian or Brit. And as countries go, they are probably the closest to the US culturally so the comparisons are easier.
     
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    Huh? I've never had to wait that long. Our local ER had a 2 hour wait the last time I was there, though because it was a heart condition I was seen the moment I arrived. My local GP I get seen either that day or within 2-3 days but of course with those I can go private should I choose to.

    I guess this is it. I don't see the problem with any of this. We have both systems here where I can get "free" healthcare and wait those times, or go private and pay a smaller amount than what it costs in the US. I only went private once for an eye problem, it cost me £200 for 3 meetings with a consultant, tests, an overnight stay, and a complete course of medication. Or I could have waited 3-4 weeks to have it done on the NHS for free. Options, yo. But I think the big thing is ongoing medication costs - you can get medications via your GP and only pay £8 per item, or a max of £30/mo if you need more, OR get it for free if you earn less than X amount a year. What a wonderful system that is.

    I don't understand why folk are against having that option. Surely having optional paid services ontop of a free service is the best solution for everyone.
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    Then I guess anyone campaigning for socialised healthcare needs to address that with some facts. Though, after what I've seen both in the UK and US recently facts are no longer believed.

    Yes it can take up to a month to see a specialist. But with anything suspected as being serious (like a chronic illness or cancer etc) you get seen right away. I had to wait a month for a non-urgent eye appointment so I chose to go private and got seen that day. I guess that's what the way the anti-healthcare folk would twist it.
     
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    Actually I would not be opposed to it if it were an option. I broke from the ranks and thought a public option for the ACA would have been a good idea.

    Part of the problem in the US is a large segment of the populace does not trust the government. Whether this is based on real facts or just emotion is not clear, but it is what it is. So combine the government with healthcare and people are going to balk.

    Look at the ACA. It was sold to the public on the basis of lowering costs (including premiums) and you could keep your doctor. Turns out these were not true, so those two misstatements have soured the public even more on government healthcare.

    Now in all fairness, Medicare does seem to do a good job, but at the same time Dr.'s do limit the number of Medicare patients they accept because they can't keep an office open on Medicare reimbursements alone. So what happens when that is all they are getting?
     
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    Lots of people don't trust the government here as well.
     

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