I've always been amused at the liberals on this board think I love GWB simple because I defend him on certain issues. To them, I'm a blind party loyalist. The reality is that I view much of the Bush presidency as an unmitigated failure, and one of the biggest political disapointments in my life. But, it isn't for the reasons that the sheep in the media or the general voting population always cry about. Its not Iraq, or Katrina, or the WoT... ...no my friends, THIS is why I long ago decided that George Bush is a fraud: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/20767.html And no, war spending is not part of this. We're talking discretionary spending here... war spending and Iraq allocations are done in separate bills that aren't counted in discretionary spending. When you see things like "Bush asks Congress for 88 billion for the war" - that isn't included in something like this. Expansion of the dept of education with NCLB is a huge one... the travesty of that medicare bill is another... the list is huge - but he just proves that the wing of the republican party he belongs to cares nothing about the budget, spending or domestic management - they are about aggressive international intervention, lower taxes (without the accompanying spending cuts and program trimming), and harping on moral issues. He is not in the same wing of the party as say Barry Goldwater or Reagan.