The Sanders Campaign Tried to Rig Caucus Tiebreakers With Double-Sided Coins

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  1. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    Of course, the Sanders clown car campaign didn't know the rules and would've been hoisted on their own retard because ties in Nevada are broken by cutting a card deck.

    The Sanders Campaign Tried to Rig Caucus Tiebreakers With Double-Sided Coins

    The Democratic primary wasn’t rigged — despite the best efforts of Bernie Sanders’s staffers in Nevada. On Monday, CBS News published a postmortem on the Vermont senator’s campaign, which includes this anecdote about how Sanders’s Silver State director Joan Kato prepared her team for caucus day:

    At one point shortly before the caucuses, she instructed staff to buy double-sided coins — in case coin-flips were needed to decide any of the caucuses in the event of a tie, according to staffers.​

    The report does not specify whether staffers followed this instruction. But according to Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston, it wouldn’t have made any difference, either way.

    Funniest part, as more than one person has reminded me, is ties were not decided by coin flip but by cutting cards! https://t.co/6wDgK8nsdB

    — Jon Ralston (@RalstonReports) June 27, 2016

    Anyhow, now that “Sanders actually won the primary” truthers have evidence that their own campaign had a Machiavellian streak — and that exit polls oversample youth voters — maybe we can all get back to complaining about things that are genuinely rigged, like our criminal justice system or this Ford F150.​
     
  2. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    What is it about Nevada? Must be all that gambling that makes people think they can game the political system too like marking or counting cards.
     
  3. Robisan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Pretty sure that if the facts were reversed and Clinton's campaign encouraged rigging tie-breakers this would be a multi-page thread full of BernieBrat outrage and ****hurt. Instead, *crickets* from the BB puritans.
     
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    The man is a fraud. Anything else?
     
  5. Robisan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Preach!
     
  6. Meister Suspended

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    Bernie has lost all credibility by endorsing Hitlary.

    I was actually tempted to put my support behind him but my intution served me well.
     
  7. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    what he is supposed to support his greatness? don't lie you never even thought about supporting Bernie you support the hair.
     
  8. Meister Suspended

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    Why are you accusing me of lying for no reason?

    I've never really attacked Bernie and I always gave him credit for his character in the past despite him being an outright socialist!
     
  9. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Please provide the source where Bernie stated that he endorsed Hillary.

    Your support wouldn't do any good regardless, seeing the little to no influence you have, as well as the fact that you can't vote in the POTUS election.

    BL.
     
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    The below is true from what I can remember..

     
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    The latter, Endorse, means to give full official approval; the former, support, means to prevent failure. You can support someone even though you may not agree with them, while endorsing them means that you fully agree with them while supporting them.

    Used in this political context: Bernie may not agree with everything in Hillary's platform, but he would still support her over Trump.

    BL.
     
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    That's a good explanation.

    I believe that after the dnc he will endorse her.

    There was however no reason for him to even support her.

    I've always stated that I kinda understand people who support neither Trump nor Hitlary, but supporting her in any way is unacceptable.
     
  15. Robisan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    And the Puritans have arrived! Bernie is now a fallen angel.
     
  16. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    fornicate him and the hoveround he rode in.
     
  17. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    I knew you'd come around eventually. :D
     
  18. APlotdevice, Jun 29, 2016
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    Umm, yeah... I’m still not voting for Hilary. Or Trump. Everyone and everything to do with this current election cycle can just go **** itself.

    Mind you, the very idea of determining an election... Even just a primary election... with a coin toss is utterly insane. This isn’t a matter of who pays for the ******* pizza!
     
  19. thermodynamic Suspended

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    You really had credibility for him all these months before now despite being otherwise solidly behind Trump and right down to your avatar image? (For the record, every candidate brings good attributes and not-as-detailed attributes to the table. I am leaning toward one candidate, but I'm holding out to the debates where all sorts of issues are undoubtedly going to be addressed with more context compared to when the MSM first reported various quotes and quips.)

    And, yes, if it's true he played such games like a double-sided coin, he shouldn't be disqualified from the race?

    I've never heard of NYMAG.COM before. Wouldn't it be interesting if people's intuition was kneejerk in thinking it's an anti-Bernie outlet, or anti-Liberal/anti-Democrat/etc outlet? Even to the point where Brietbart and Free Republic would blush in embarrassment? Should I go and look at the NYMAG site and see for myself if they come across sincere?

    Especially as the media is said to be pro-Hillary paid-for-shill-whatever, why wouldn't this apparent gross misuse and abuse of the election system not have been pounced on by everybody? It's not exactly teensy weensy news!

    Also, people who resort to altering names to make pejorative insults have no credibility and whose intuition is even less reliable than Miss Cleo. Yes, I acted like a toddler in the past. Didn't do much good since people didn't think of viewpoints because I said "Shrub" at the end of a lengthy convoluted diatribe based mostly on what fringe websites brought up so I grew up. Now I just write lengthy convoluted diatribes based on MSM sources and not trying to-- what's the objective again when trying to misspell peoples' names as a form of childish pejorative? Apart from looking stupid and not out of place in a 3rd grade math class where they type into their calculators "55378008" and turn it upside down for a cheap laugh while teacher is writing homework assignments on the chalkboard...
    --- Post Merged, Jun 29, 2016 ---
    Incidentally, I did take a peek. Interesting mix of articles, so my kneejerk reaction about insta-bias might be in error. But the Sanders issue seems big enough that it would have hit bigger media outlets and be a huge scandal... time will tell. And even then everyone will say "liberal media", "bought by Clinton", and the usual shtick.
     
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    I love this malapropism.
     
  21. thats all folks, Jun 29, 2016
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    seriously, how many of you are falling all over your keyboards to declare, Bernie is a fraud! over this one unattributed, unverified, un-contextualized throwaway sentence in a rather long article. the person the statement is attributed to is a replacement director of ONLY the Nevada campaign, at that time, 3 weeks on the job. hardly any place to make this specifically some reflection on the overall campaign and certainly not Bernie himself.

    and how does a double sided coin help? do you believe that a coin toss to determine the nominee for the party would start with whoever is presiding asking, "oh, does anyone have a coin? a coin that I wont casually look at both sides of before tossing and that you can immediately grab back up and hide from sight as soon as the toss is done. and whoever provides the coin gets to call it and we must first accept a coin from the staff of the candidate with the whitest hair. can anyone cover that?" that was the plan, certainly.

    it's very possible that the statement was made, but as a joke. humor. something lacking here perhaps.
     
  22. Robisan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I assume you've heard of CBS News, which was the source for the NY MAG piece.
     
  23. thats all folks macrumors 6502a

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    and CBS News considers it nothing more than anecdotal.
     
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