The story of the MSI GS65 and the Macbook Pro

[RJ2010115]

I’ve always understood that laptops are a compromise - Everyone wants them to be powerful, fast and full of ports, as well as small, portable and light.

Until now I thought that apple leaned to the second option as other veered into the “portable workstation”.

Now I see something like this MSI GS65:

- the keyboard has some nice travel

- the screen looks to be the same size (lower resolution but 144mhz and low bezels)

- Dimensions are within 2% except for it is 2mm thicker

- Weight is less than 1% different

- Battery is 82w/h vs 72w/h on the Macbook Pro

- Even the power brick is only 14% heavier

- It has a TON more ports, including the impossibly thick LAN port

So I really can’t understand why apple could not pursue something like this…


There is no excuse why the next Macbook Pro couldn’t have a really good GPU (this 1070 Max Q is 4 times faster than 460/560 PRO), CPU (about 50% faster than current), Keyboard (this one has like 3 time the travel) and a decent number of ports (GS65 has 10, apple has 5- including headphone, mic and power ports).

 

[Audit13]

Comparisons between Windows laptops and Macbooks have been going on for years and there's no question that Windows laptops sport some excellent tech; however, the big thing that all Windows laptops don't have is macOS.

 

[RJ2010115]

Comparisons between Windows laptops and Macbooks have been going on for years and there's no question that Windows laptops sport some excellent tech; however, the big thing that all Windows laptops don't have is macOS.

That's a fine acessement. Noone does MacOS but apple and it will stay that way.

And MacOS beats Windows.

But right now the compromise from apple between powerful vs thin and light is much lower.
Before you could argue that noone could build something as thin and light as apple, but more powerful.

Now it is not true.

 

[Audit13]

One thing that I also found from using Windows laptops and desktops for years is the difference in hardware and software support.

I am fortunate to live in a city where there are four Apple stores within short driving distance of my home. If I have a hardware or software problem, I can visit an Apple store and get some help. Can't do that with MSI, HP, etc.

In the end, it comes down to personal choice and there seem to be plenty of people willing to settle for these hardware compromises to have a MBP.

I know that much of Apple's profits come from iPhones but the laptop/desktop side does well too based on their earnings reports, growth numbers, and cash hoard.

 

[Closingracer]

I’ve always understood that laptops are a compromise - Everyone wants them to be powerful, fast and full of ports, as well as small, portable and light.

Until now I thought that apple leaned to the second option as other veered into the “portable workstation”.

Now I see something like this MSI GS65:

- the keyboard has some nice travel

- the screen looks to be the same size (lower resolution but 144mhz and low bezels)

- Dimensions are within 2% except for it is 2mm thicker

- Weight is less than 1% different

- Battery is 82w/h vs 72w/h on the Macbook Pro

- Even the power brick is only 14% heavier

- It has a TON more ports, including the impossibly thick LAN port

So I really can’t understand why apple could not pursue something like this…


There is no excuse why the next Macbook Pro couldn’t have a really good GPU (this 1070 Max Q is 4 times faster than 460/560 PRO), CPU (about 50% faster than current), Keyboard (this one has like 3 time the travel) and a decent number of ports (GS65 has 10, apple has 5- including headphone, mic and power ports).

Lmao. Yet the Nividia gpu will use a lot more power. Which is probably part of the reason why they went with AMD after the 740M

 

[Closingracer]

That's a fine acessement. Noone does MacOS but apple and it will stay that way.

And MacOS beats Windows.

But right now the compromise from apple between powerful vs thin and light is much lower.
Before you could argue that noone could build something as thin and light as apple, but more powerful.

Now it is not true.

MacOS beats windows is purely subjective. If I was playing games like I used to I would of sold my MacBook Pro instead of my gaming windows laptop because macOS is horrible at gaming even if it had a Nividia 1080. The OS simply lacks games like windows does