The Ten Commandments

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  1. kastenbrust macrumors 68030

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    Certain extremist Christian sects, especially ones such as the Catholic sect have always made me wonder, surely hanging pictures of Jesus, making models of him and hanging them on crosses, etc etc are blasphemy in the eyes of God.
    Let me explain:

    The Ten Commandments:

    1. You shall not make for yourself an idol

    (Widely interpreted as, dont make idols of false Gods, or God himself.)

    Now Since Jesus IS God

    "I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." (John 10:30-33)

    Surely making idols of him goes against the main, and the first of the Ten Commandments?!?
     
  2. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    blasphemy would be saying they are cannibals always talking about consuming the body of their savior on weekends.
     
  3. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    I think this debate has been done to death already throughout history. See the iconoclast debate.
     
  4. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Hypocrisy in religion? No way! Who would've ever thought there could be such a thing?
     
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    As long as there is wine (Klingon blood wine is acceptable) then I'm there.
     
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    I usually bring my own glass, I prefer Manichevitz
     
  7. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Yes, it says so. Why do people make idols is up to each one. We are given a guide book, we choose to follow it or not.

    No, its not hypocrisy, rather than willful negligence.
     
  8. sammich macrumors 601

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    An idol is something you worship. If you 'make' something your idol, be it physical (money, property) or status (position, fame) you make something greater than God in your own eyes. Having something in a higher place in your heart/mind than God is the warning of the first commandment.

    Something I found on the web.

    http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00AlMa
     
  9. adrianblaine macrumors 65816

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    aka Hypocrisy
     
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    Ah, Lord protect us from well-meaning fools.
     
  11. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    I'm glad all of you feel qualified to participate in a theological debate without any understanding (or at least you haven't shown any) of the theological issue in question. But that's right, you don't have to debate intelligently on this forum so long as the subject is religion bashing. I guess I forgot. :rolleyes:

    These intellectually lazy, insulting posts would not be tolerated on any other subject (as long as we're talking about hypocrisy).
     
  12. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    tocuhe?:p
     
  13. adrianblaine macrumors 65816

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    the OP should have posted the entire text. I think it sheds more light on the subject.

    I'm not catholic, so I'm unaware of what transpires between the statue and the person
     
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    Not aiming at you, but, somehow, some catholics how bash out other religions, yet, omit to mention they fail following this rule.

    Again, no offense intended.
     
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    thats exactly why i dont have a crusifix statue thingy. I dont worship it, i worship god. all that is to me is just an artist's interpretation of the crucifixion.
     
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    Again, you don't even bother to understand the theology behind Catholic thought, but feel comfortable criticizing them. To a Catholic, Catholics definitely obey this "rule."
     
  17. emt1 macrumors 65816

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    I seriously can't believe people waste their lives with garbage like this. Who the hell cares? :rolleyes:

    If God was real, he'd be pissed at you for doing so little good for your fellow humans. Get out there and live life, be happy, help others, love everyone.
     
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    And yet that is the true essence of Christianity.;)
     
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    Right, because debating this and doing lots of good for your fellow humans are mutually exclusive. :rolleyes:

    Come off it.
     
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    Yes, the wrong wine and failing to season the body can really ruin a meal. :eek:
     
  21. kastenbrust thread starter macrumors 68030

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    i was actually looking for a serious theological answer, because the Catholic church always seems to enforce its policies rigidly on the exact word of the Bible, all the way down to banning the use of condoms etc, but lets not open that can of worms, so why would they then go against this and allow idols of God and Jesus in their own Churches when even their version of the Bible clearly states as the first commandment this is wrong.

    Valid point, but the commandment imply's not to make any idols, whether you worship them or not isn't important.

    Well you obviously care since your reading the "Politics, Religion, Social Issues" Forum. Hypocrite
     
  22. emt1 macrumors 65816

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    Yup you're right. God is pissed and they will get a really bad room in heaven, that is, if they even get there. He will probably send them to spend an eternity in hell for worshiping the wrong way. I mean, he made it really, really clear, didn't he? No?
     
  23. kastenbrust thread starter macrumors 68030

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    It doesn't matter what will happen to them, what matters is that Christianity preaches one thing and does another, conisistently, which erodes peoples confidence in it.

    Theres so many children on this forum!
     
  24. emt1 macrumors 65816

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    The reason there is a lack of confidence in Christianity is because none of it is based on a shred evidence.
     
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    Or you can go the simple Bill Hicks route NSFW link
     

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