The time is overdue for a new political party

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    The concept is so elegantly simple, yet the execution is so excruciatingly difficult.

    Wouldn't it be superb if all moderate Republicans joined together with all moderate Democrats and formed a new political party in this country? They could call it, voila, the Moderate Party.

    They would receive the overwhelming support of the majority of the country, and could tell the idiot fringes on both sides to stick it up their *****.

    I know, just utopian dreams.

    Unfortunately, I can't think of any viable alternatives to lead this country out of the "crapmire" it's stuck in.
     
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    we are so divided as a nation that is not even funny.
     
  3. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Not sure a new party is needed more than campaign reform. But I'm game for a conversation.

    What's a plank in the party's platform you'd like to put forth? Let's see if we can agree and get the ball rolling toward bridging the gap.

    For instance, where would this party stand on the issue of healthcare? Would it push for Universal Healthcare?
     
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    universal HC.
    protect/support the 2nd. no more stupid laws.
    no more domestic spying
    war declared by congress ONLY.
    cease/desist propping up dictators elsewhere.
     
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    I'm not smart enough (or informed enough) to offer a healthcare solution to satisfy the majority, so instead I'll attack a subject near and dear to my heart... firearms.

    I believe that there must be much more stringent controls with regard to firearms ownership, and even more over allowing concealed carry (which I believe in). Training and testing must be instituted in the mix. For those living in rural areas who have grown up with firearms, the training requirement could be waived, but not the testing.

    However, once the training/testing regimen has been satisfied, there would be fewer "do good" laws applicable, such as those dealing with types of firearms owned... vis a vis the so called "assault weapons ban". A simple .22 semi-auto with a ten round magazine can be just as devastating as a much more evil looking firearm.

    I don't think it at all unreasonable to require recertification on a regular basis, much like a driver's license. Perhaps a better model would be a pilot's license, as I believe they are more frequent and have a health component as well.

    Those on one side will argue that this is a right guaranteed by the Constitution which can not be trampled on, while those on the other side will continue to argue against certain model and features being available. However, this is the Moderate Party, so we will choose to compromise. :)
     
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    depending on how it's worked out, we could compromise, concealed carry across ALL states. no problems with mandatory training & re-qualification after say 5 years.
     
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    Ideally we could have no political parties and just vote on the issues. But obviously that's never going to happen. Multiple parties is the next best thing, though apparently the way our electoral system was set up leaves little room for more than two parties.
     
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    the system is rigged, that much is obvious. people sadly might not want to know what the issues are, they only care if the candidates have an "R" or a "D" next to their name. :mad:
     
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    Or an "M" :)
     
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    Well if a new party DID emerge today, its candidates would most likely have a "T" next to their name.
     
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    OK, I'm dense...

    "T"?

    (Please don't tell me you mean Trump! That would be pathetic.)
     
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    It'd be hilarious! But no, I mean Tea Party.

    They already act like they're their own party. They hate the establishment Republicans. The establishment Republicans hate them. The only thing that seems to keep them together is the fact that they need each other to win major elections. But perhaps that "glue" will only hold so long?
     
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    Somehow I have a hard time equating the Tea Party with the Moderate Party. Maybe it's just me...
     
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    No, they'd be far right for sure. With the now more moderate Republican Party slotting in the middle.
     
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    I'm getting the feeling that some of the more extreme (right or left) members of this forum choose not to participate in this thread. Wonder why...
     
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    Give it time. It's still young.

    I consider myself a fairly extreme lefty. And if that firearm thing is non-negotiable, then I'm afraid that I'll have to find a another party.
     
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    As you said yourself, you're a fairly extreme lefty, so I guess the Moderate Party is out of the question for you.

    I do appreciate your participation.
     
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    Citizezen is already here :p
     
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    Every rule has exceptions. :)
     
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    That would be a rather devastating move against innovation, and not something I would imagine in the Moderate's agenda.

    Not too m/Moderate in this one either.
     
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    Sheesh...when you posted this, your thread had only been active for two hours.

    Yeah, let's get a moderate party in here. One that supports universal healthcare for all Americans, pushes for better wages for all working citizens so that our economy can actually recover and thrive, can come up with a tax system that actually works, has some sort of sensible answer to the gun war going on, wants to pretty much pull out of most military conflicts, and supports equal rights for all Americans, and...

    Oh, wait....you said moderate. That's all probably considered highly BS-crazy left-wing socialism.
     
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    I think that position is even further right than the tea party, and not at all moderate.
     
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    You assume way too much (not surprisingly). I didn't read anything you said that wouldn't fit well into a moderate agenda.

    Of course, the devil is always in the details. Do you have any? Do you have any comment on my take on firearms regulation in an earlier post? Do you have anything to really offer other than a snarky comment?
     
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    Further? Nah, several Tea Partiers have called for an end to the minimum wage.

    The thing is though that many tea party followers have deluded themselves into thinking that they are "moderates". With everyone else just being radical leftists.
     

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