The Trump Brand is Sinking

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  1. rdowns, Oct 13, 2016
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    Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.


    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...tel-shows-as-poll-sink-so-does-his-brand.html
     
  2. IronWaffle macrumors 6502

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    It says a lot when people - especially businesses are willing to pay MORE to avoid what would normally be a decent hotel.
     
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    Sorry, but who pays $450-$1100+ per night for a room at a hotel? Even for Washington... :eek:
     
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    Business travelers who are reimbursed.
     
  6. rdowns thread starter macrumors Penryn

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    Apparently not many.
     
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    It's that efficient private sector again. When I travel as an employee at a UK university, £100 ($121 ... but falling every.single.day.) is considered the norm for room and board.
     
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    Washington, land of $5000 hookers?

    If they're bringing in receipts for the hotel rooms and the room is only $1k...
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    Ironic. Private sector hotels will charge what the market will bear. Location location location, and customer base customer base customer base, efficiency is not the word. Greed might be, though.

    Unless you're referring to socialism, since the UK is far, far closer to that than the US is...
     
  9. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Hey....I just think you may have stumbled onto the demographic that Trump needs to be going for. Basically Trump needs to embrace his pervyness and start marketing his properties accordingly. :D
     
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    Vegas during CES and other large trade shows is very common. $300 to $500 is pretty common for ordinary business travel.
     
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    One of my clients took the most exclusive "village" comprising of three villas at Hotel Le Sereno on St Barts over New Years for $65,000 a night with a minimum stay of five nights, then only stayed for three!
     
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    Two of my friends and I took a half-floor suite at the Beverly Hills Plaza for 4 nights after a very successful stay in Vegas. $2,150 a night in 1992.
     
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    That's the funny thing about Trump - I have no doubt when this started he thought to himself that he had nothing to lose and everything to gain. In a worst case scenario, he'd find himself president. In a best case scenario, he'd lose but have a good showing, garner more fame, and add to his brand. And that's the funny part - he has destroyed his brand, and his brand is so visible that the impact will be immediate. By contrast, pretend for a moment that everyone suddenly despised Warren Buffett. People wouldn't know how to hit him where it hurts, because his name isn't on all of his assets. Trump on the other hand, puts his damn name on everything, so everyone always knows what is his, and will no doubt be avoiding.

    He should have bowed out back in June, and enjoyed an even better quality of life and fame and money. Now his only hope is to actually win this thing.

    He's toast, indeed.
     
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    Let me guess - these absolutely essential :rolleyes: hotel charges are deducted as a business expense in corporate tax returns, so the rest of us smuck taxpayers wind up paying for it in the end.
     
  15. rdowns thread starter macrumors Penryn

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    That's a fact. My old company was bought by a private equity firm. I traveled to Denver one week a month. The new CEO told me I could and should be spending more on the road. What's a good soldier to do? I stayed in better hotels, I rented better cars and took the staff out more.
     
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    Yup.


    But it's the poor brown people who are stealing all our tax dollars via welfare! :rolleyes:
     
  17. rdowns thread starter macrumors Penryn

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    Maybe he should replace the big Trump signs with Vacancy signs.
     
  18. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    Nice. The median annual income for 2015 in the US was approximately $55,000.

    I feel just a tad out of touch with the everyday problems of your clients :D

    On thread: Trump's kids must be wondering how to wind this thing up. A season of sorta-reality TV for Dad is one thing but the whole business empire getting the gong is something else.
     
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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that while his properties are going to look more destroyed than the buildings that used to house SCO after their many frivolous lawsuits regarding patents and IP in Linux, I'm going to hope that Trump's latest hotel venture in D.C. stays afloat for the time being...

    ... the time being, meaning until that tax loophole that Trump used to not pay taxes for 20 years gets closed, then Trump is stuck with the loss and having to pay for it.

    BL.
     
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    Snap..crackle...pop. It's been an extremely entertaining election run. But all good things eventually come to an end. I'm looking forward to D1 wrestling season & the NFL.
     
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    Trump already mentioned he was sacrificing his businesses to run as president, with as fractured as the country is it would be almost impossible not to piss off at least 50%.
     
  22. Thomas Veil, Oct 13, 2016
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    I don't know if even whores would stay at his hotels. Unless they're from Congress, of course.

    Personally, I think he could still make money by turning all of his properties into, um, rehabilitation facilities for his voters.
     
  23. Zenithal macrumors 68040

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    It wasn't much of a brand to begin with. I remember first seeing the Trump brand of products in stores and found them to be cheap. Of course, even then they were made by workers, likely a child, in a third-world country. I believe it was in a Nordstrom's. Which arguably carried better products many years ago opposed to now, but the point still stands.

    Despite their being some old money in Trump, the man is the epitome of nouveau riche cheesiness. Which extend from his manners to his property. In most cases, his high end hotels remind me of the garishness you see with the newly minted rich Middle Easterners in the UAE who have little taste in their home furnishings and are materialistic fashionistas. If I wanted to stay at a bordello, I'd find a bordello.

    It isn't just for CES. I was there many years ago for a NAB show as a guest of a production company and the rates were high. Even if you were off the strip and got a deal with Expedia, you'll be hard pressed to find anything less than $230 a night that wasn't a dump.
     
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    Agreed, which is why I said most large shows. There was a period of ~ 15 years that I was in Vegas 4 to 5 times each year for shows. Thankfully towards the end I was able to make it a day trip, two days at the most.

    I don't miss that.
     
  25. Zenithal macrumors 68040

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    Ah yes. I remember when the flights were $150, 200 at most and you could have a lot of fun. Then things got more expensive. I haven't been to Vegas in a decade, I think. From what I've heard, it's gone down hill.
     

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