The truth about cops killing blacks

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  1. XrayTed macrumors regular

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    "In 2014 the police killed 261 whites and 131 blacks. The CDC also found that from 1999 to 2013, the police killed almost twice the number of whites compared to blacks, 3,160 and 1,724, respectively."


    Safe to say no one hears about it when a white guy gets killed by a cop. If anyone does hear about it, everyone thinks the guy was a criminal and had it coming - Which might well be the case.
    But a black gets killed by a cop its instant international news, with an instant speech from Obama and shrill cries from the Injustice Dept to make sure justice is done ! "Protest" marches spring up across the nation, and they are most often used as an excuse to loot, pillage, burn and destroy.

    Even when the guy, as is most often the case, is a felon criminal with a rap sheet 8 pages long, the guy will be mourned and martyred by Obama as if blacks are some endangered, protected species. Law enforcement officers are pilloried from the top on down, black mayors and prosecutors order LE to stand down and give lawless thugs "space to destroy" ... And as we see, this bland appeasement and pandering from the top is what they crave, encourages them to demand yet more, and encourages them to murder cops in the streets.

    Yes, this blood is on the hands of the pandering left wing liberals who encourage and promote every step of the way lawless thugs over law & order - And as the stats show, as usual, it is all based on a complete lie, just like "hands up don't shoot".








    Larry Elder notes whites are 1.7 times more likely to die at the hands of police

    Where to start with actor Jesse Williams’ widely praised rant on police brutality and white racism delivered at this year’s Black Entertainment Television awards show?

    To his enthusiastic audience, Williams reeled off lie after lie, all in the name of black “resistance” over the “oppressor” – meaning anyone he believes benefits from “this invention called whiteness.” Time magazine called his discourse “powerful.”

    Where are fact-checkers when the fact-devoid desperately need fact-checking? After all, Williams practically begged to be fact-checked when he said, “What we’ve been doing is looking at the data, and we know that police somehow manage to de-escalate, disarm and not kill white people every day.”

    The “police … manage to … not kill white people every day”?

    Let’s start with 2014, the last year for which there are official records. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the police killed 261 whites and 131 blacks. The CDC also found that from 1999 to 2013, the police killed almost twice the number of whites compared to blacks, 3,160 and 1,724, respectively.

    Activists promptly note that whites account for nearly 65 percent of the population and that, therefore, one would expect whites to comprise most of those killed by cops. And we are told that blacks, while 13 percent of the population, represent a much greater percentage of those killed by cops. Institutional, systemic, structural racism!

    Here’s what those promoting the “police disproportionately kill black people” narrative consistently omit. Whites, despite being almost 65 percent of the population, disproportionately commit less of the nation’s violent crime – 10 percent. Blacks, at 13 percent of the population, disproportionately commit more violent crime. As to murders, black commit nearly half. Yet whites are 50 percent of cop killings.

    Criminology professor Peter Moskos looked at the numbers of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 and found that 49 percent were white, while 30 percent were black. “Adjusted for the homicide rate,” says Moskos, “whites are 1.7 times more likely than blacks to die at the hands of police.” So if anything, whites have more to complain about than Mr. Williams.

    What about traffic stops and race? Surely cops racially profile blacks, wrongly and disproportionately stopping them? Not according to the National Institute of Justice, the research arm of the Department of Justice. In its 2013 report, “Race, Trust and Police Legitimacy,” the NIJ found that 75 percent of blacks admitted that they were stopped for “legitimate reasons.” And it turns out blacks disproportionately commit traffic offenses, whether speeding, driving without a license, driving with expired tags, driving without the seat belt on or without a car seat for a baby, and so on. Numerical disparities, said the NIJ, result from “differences in offending” in addition to “differences in exposure to the police” and “differences in driving patterns.”

    What about 2015, a year in which Black Lives Matter protested a number of high-profile police/black suspect encounters? According to the Washington Post, the police killed 965 people. But the Post found that “white police officers killing unarmed black men represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings.” Remember, a black man, extremely popular among blacks, has been president for over seven years. He has nominated, and Congress has approved, back-to-back black attorneys general. Nothing stops the Department of Justice from filing civil rights charges against the officers for “murder.” But the DOJ has not done so.

    Williams attacked whites for engaging in what has become known as “cultural appropriation,” although he did not use that term. He said: “This invention called whiteness uses and abuses us, burying black people out of sight and out of mind while extracting our culture, our dollars, our entertainment like oil – black gold, ghettoizing and demeaning our creations then stealing them, gentrifying our genius and then trying us on like costumes before discarding our bodies like rinds of strange fruit. The thing is, though … the thing is that just because we’re magic doesn’t mean we’re not real.”

    That’s a mouthful, especially when the primary buyers of rap music, a black-dominated genre, mostly are white consumers. Snoop Dogg, Ice-T, Run-D.M.C. and Jay Z got rich while happily being culturally appropriated by white kids living in the suburbs.

    It’s also interesting to note that Williams is a product of a white mother and black father, both of whom were in the audience. So his mom is an “invention,” while his dad is “magic.” Must make for interesting conversation in the Williams’ home at dinnertime. And a rich, half-white actor delivered an attack on whites on a cable channel owned by a corporation whose primarily shareholders are a family headed by a patriarch named Sumner Redstone, a Jew.

    Only in America.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/the-truth-about-cops-killing-blacks/#pDU9ZkOP1KZfZu1Y.99
     
  2. Populism macrumors regular

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  3. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    No one disputes overall more white people were killed by police officers, however the discussion is about proportionality...


    This is why there is outrage ... and deservedly so.
     
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    shhhh, that's going against the OP's narrative.
     
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    Unfortunately, the OP's narrative is depressingly, lamentably and predictably clear from the tabloid style headline, to the lengthy initial post which slips into loaded adjectives and loses its way in a cul-de-sac marked 'insults aimed at liberals' - half way down the post.
     
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    Proportionaly way more men are killed by police than women. Police must be trigger happy to kill men.
     
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    Ah yes, fun with numbers:

    US Population (2010 census):

    White American 223,553,265 72.4 %
    Black American 38,929,319 12.6 %

    White killing %: 261/223,553,265 = 0.0000011675
    Black killing %: 131/38,929,319 = 0.00000336507

    White killing %: 3,160/223,553,265 = 0.00001413533
    Black killing %: 1,724/38,929,319 = 0.00004428538

    Why lookie here, blacks are over three times more likely to be killed by police!

    Umm, yea, I totally remember Obama giving 131 "instant speeches" on cop killings in 2014... :rolleyes: x ~
     
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    I don't think it's just about proportionality. It's also about justified killings. How many little white boys get shot to death on the playground for carrying around an admittedly realistic looking gun replica?
     
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    Updated figures for white to black percentages 2015:
    Screen Shot 2016-07-08 at 5.16.06 PM.png
    Keeping the above ratio, the Blacks number should be about 45.
     
  10. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Regardless of raw number or the percentage ....... the REAL issue is .... how blacks are killed by police.

    Can somebody link me where police shoots a white person in with an unfathomable amount of rounds?
    Whites getting choked to death?
    Where's the white version of Rodney King?
    Where's the white version of Abner Louima?
    How many whites get shot by police while already on the ground?

    Catch my drift? I can go on and on and on and on. Probably around 98% of blacks that get killed by police does not anger the black community, because it was most likely justified. Blacks are only angry about a police killing a black, when they feel it to be unjustified.

    The naysayers will spin this like it's a numbers game, when the only numbers that matter is the number of unjustified killings from police. But stats for that are almost always in the favor of police, since it's next to impossible to even charge them. Which is also the REAL issue at hand.
     
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    I'm glad someone finally decided to do that damn math. I wanted to do it myself, but I get so lazy when I have to do stuff with numbers.
     
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    This one: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-19-year-old-man-during-chaotic-traffic-stop/
     
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    Blacks are also involved in a disproportionate amount of violent crime and so we would expect their police encounters to also be disproportionate.

    The neighbourhoods the white people stay out of after dark and cops are in full force aren't white ones for good reason.
     
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    At the current average hit ratio by US law inforcement, 20%. I suspect they fired many more rounds, as high as 20. Castile's, count was 4 at close range. Not sure what your point is?
     
  16. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    No, we should expect police encounters to be disproportionate against know gangs members and criminals.


    And this is what you get from disproportionate police encounters. Only a 10% of guilty, while 90% are being harassed for no reason. THAT'S NOT GOOD POLICING!!!!!

    http://www.nyclu.org/news/new-nyclu...es-ineffective-reveals-depth-of-racial-dispar

    --- Post Merged, Jul 8, 2016 ---
    Man you are reaching for the stars.

    From your link ....

    And it's was you that was trying to make a point by trying to debunk my statement. Try Again.
     
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    There are a lot of disproportionate things about the black community that doesn't paint a pretty picture.

    Black people do commit more crimes on average than whites by percentage of population.
    Black families are predominately single parent
    There are proportionally more blacks on welfare than whites.

    These are three things you could squarely peg as being solely on their shoulders. Though there are other things to consider that you can't blame solely on them.

    Blacks are more likely to be sentenced to prison for crimes that whites would get probation for.
    Blacks will then serve longer sentences on average than whites.
    There are more black people in prison than whites, despite the fact that less blacks commit slightly less violent crimes by pure numbers
    Blacks are more likely to be pulled over, frisked, or detained for spurious reasons than whites.
    Black communities have historically been more heavily patrolled by the police than white neighborhoods.


    It's just all kinds ugly. You get the impression that you have an entire demographic who are actively being ****ed by the system, and have settled into a kind of irresponsible malaise.
     
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    Does your assertion that blacks get harsher sentences counter for the fact that blacks are more likely to be repeat offenders
     
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    Most criminals are repeat offenders. Slim pickings job wise when you have a record
     
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    What JK said. There isn't really any such thing as an ex-con in this country. If you go to prison, you don't serve your time, pay your debt to society, then leave. You're marked for life.

    Considering the fact that the number of violent crimes committed by blacks perpetrators is roughly equivalent to the number committed by white perps on a year to year basis, you'd think that our prison population would reflect that, with a number of roughly equally incarcerated whites and blacks. It doesn't
     
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    In my opinion, the REAL white privilege is that the stats will always favor whites based on whites being a large majority. Whites can easily say, blacks commit more crimes by percentage. But they can say that on the backs of the 70+ percentage of the USA population. Would be interesting to see a 50/50 spilt in population.
     
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    If you were to grow the statistics now, it'd be damn ugly, with black crime representing nearly 300% higher than white crime. The screams of being X% higher to be Y'ed by blacks would be a truism, rather than a statistical twist.

    But that's assuming linear growth from the current stats. Chances are good that if there were just as many black as whites in the country, we'd have a much different social dynamic going on. Who knows what the lay of the land would be like in that scenario.
     
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    I agree. And to add on to that, the type of crime would matter too.

    This fits the narrative of your post #17

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/racial-disparity-drug-use_n_3941346.html
     
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    Based o. What you guys are posting ,knowing the system is stacked against you, does it not make sense to stay clean and keep a low profile?
     

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