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The way MBP should be built - your dream CHASSIS thread

brianmowrey

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If you took over for Tim Cook today, what would the next MBP look like? Thickest height, ideal ports layout, types of displays, and keyboard/input layout that you would put on Apple's workhorse notebook. The things that are worth both the customers' money and their arm muscles, and the things that aren't. I want to discuss chassis only, not internals, which is unproductive.

That said, we can grant that everyone wants to put back user-replaceable HD, memory, and battery, and we can grant for this discussion that you, the CEO, could give us all these things in under .95", and the only reason (no other design tradeoffs) Cook hasn’t been doing so for the last 7 years is to stop us from repairing our own machines. (Doubt this is possible for battery but we’ll grant it anyway.)

So, I'm quasi-reviving this thread, which matches my opinion exactly, but I want other views. (If another thread exists with this same aim as this one, oops - call this one the "Into the ARM era dream chassis thread”.) Also, it’s not just a matter of 2nd Gen vs the present era. As the list of MBP dimensions in my reply below show, the 3rd to 4th generation jump was also drastically reductive.

Why do I want to know your “thickest” acceptable height? Because volume and weight buy thermals, battery capacity, repairability, easier assembly, and easier QA. There's no business reason to make a computer smaller except that the niche and your brand want it. Tim Cook decided that 2nd and 3rd gen MBP heights were above what the niche/brand demanded. Feel free to take these/other considerations into account for your answer, or be an absolutist to your vision of what a “pro” Apple notebook is.
 

brianmowrey

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MBP dimensions from 2nd gen to present. Someone probably already plotted this out more precisely than myself somewhere.

Dimensions provided by Apple specs. The figure next to weight and lower lid volume are the interesting bits - ratio compared to 2020 MBP baseline.

For volume, display height is subtracted as it isn’t important to performance, thought it has other implications to cost, weight, and sturdiness. Lower lid height is based on 7mm display lid thickness on 2nd and 3rd generations. I wasn’t sure about 4th and 5th so I used 6mm, which is probably generous. The real lower lid height is probably lower.

17/15/16” MBP

2nd - 17”
* Height: 0.98 inch (2.50 cm) 1.8cml
* Width: 15.47 inches (39.3 cm)
* Depth: 10.51 inches (26.7 cm)
* Weight: 6.6 pounds (2.99 kg) 1.495
* lowerlid vol: 1889 cm3 2.10

2nd - 15”
* Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm) 1.71cml
* Width: 14.35 inches (36.4 cm)
* Depth: 9.82 inches (24.9 cm)
* Weight: 5.6 pounds (2.54 kg) 1.27
* lowerlid vol: 1550 cm3 1.73

3rd - 15”
* Height: 0.71 inch (1.8 cm) 1.1cm
* Width: 14.13 inches (35.89 cm)
* Depth: 9.73 inches (24.71 cm)
* Weight: 4.46 pounds (2.02 kg) 1.01
* lowerlid vol: 976 cm3 1.09

4th - 15”
* Height: 0.61 inch (1.55 cm) .95cm
* Width: 13.75 inches (34.93 cm)
* Depth: 9.48 inches (24.07 cm)
* Weight: 4.02 pounds (1.83 kg) 0.915
* lowerlid vol: 799 cm3 0.89

5th - 16”
* Height: 0.64 inch (1.62 cm) 1.02cm
* Width: 14.09 inches (35.79 cm)
* Depth: 9.68 inches (24.59 cm)
* Weight: 4.3 pounds (2.0 kg) 1.0
* lowerlid vol: 898 cm3 1.0

13” MBP

2nd
* Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm) 1.71cml
* Width: 12.78 inches (32.5 cm)
* Depth: 8.94 inches (22.7 cm)
* Weight: 4.5 pounds (2.06 kg) 1.47
* lowerlid vol: 1262 cm3 2.04

3rd
* Height: 0.71 inch (1.8 cm) 1.1cml
* Width: 12.35 inches (31.4 cm)
* Depth: 8.62 inches (21.9 cm)
* Weight: 3.46 pounds (1.57 kg) 1.12
* lowerlid vol: 756 cm3 1.22

4th
* Height: 0.59 inch (1.49 cm) .89cml
* Width: 11.97 inches (30.41 cm)
* Depth: 8.36 inches (21.24 cm)
* Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg) .98
* lowerlid vol: 575 cm3 0.93

5th
* Height: 0.61 inch (1.56 cm) .96cml
* Width: 11.97 inches (30.41 cm)
* Depth: 8.36 inches (21.24 cm)
* Weight: 3.1 pounds (1.4 kg) 1.0
* lowerlid vol: 620 cm3 1.0
 
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