iPad Pro They Hypothetical Fall 2019 / Winter 2020 iPad Pro & What iPhone 11 tech could be used in it.

rumz

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The iPhone 11 & iPhone 11 Pro have been announced. In the run up to the announcement, based on leaks and rumors, there was generally not a ton of excitement for this update. People really want a design refresh and 5G, apparently. Similarly, many can’t see what the point of updating the iPad Pro within 12 months would be or what they could possibly do to update it.

Now that we know more about the iPhone 11, I thought it’d be interesting to see what kind of technology could you see from these making their way into the iPad Pro from the iPhone line? Previously we’ve heard the cameras might be coming, and a popular request is that the RAM would get a bump across the line, which Apple still does *not* ever mention or list as a spec; there’s also debate as to whether an A13X chip is in the pipeline or not, with some suggesting there’s isn’t one but that there is a revised A12X out there (which I don’t think they would call A12X if it was part of a product announcement).

- U1 chip (ultra wideband location chip - not talked about at the event but listed as being in the phone)
- WiFi 6
- updated rear cameras (actually rumored, even if most people roll their eyes at any camera upgrades on an iPad)
- updated front-facing / TrueDepth camera (admit it— people DO use their iPads for FaceTime and such, why not?)
- Spatial Audio (don’t know much about this really— they didn’t really get into it, not sure how much of this is hardware components / hardware design).

Honestly, I feel like an A13X might be essential to the update though— I can’t imagine them not updating a flagship line without putting a new chip in it. Aside from speed, efficiency / battery life was the big selling point for the new A13– significantly better battery life claimed on the 11 Pro series.

My take on the new iPhones is that they’re nice updates— aside from the cameras, which tend to always be the big update, the phone is the sum of a lot of smaller updates that, together, elevate the device above the previous generation, even if it doesn’t make it a must-have for all owners of said previous generation. The only reason to not do the same for the iPad Pro is if the investment doesn’t justify the projected revenue, IMO. (Or if they simply can’t allocate the resources without risking other timelines.)

Anything else I’ve missed? What are your thoughts?
 

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Some out there in internetland claim A13X doesn't exist.

What I mainly want is:
6 GB RAM minimum
128 GB base model (or else cheaper pricing of 256 GB model)

Bonuses would be:
Reinforced frame
Backlit Smart Keyboard
Ultra wideband communication
Better Face ID
Faster SoC
 
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Some out there in internetland claim A13X doesn't exist.

What I mainly want is:
6 GB RAM minimum
128 GB base model (or else cheaper pricing of 256 GB model)

Bonuses would be:
Reinforced frame
Backlit Smart Keyboard
Ultra wideband communication
Better Face ID
Faster SoC
Yep, the claim that an A13X does not exist combined with rumors of a refresh with updated cameras really don’t jibe for me. Just can’t fathom an update that doesn’t include an SoC update to 13X.

After watching the “Pro” iPhones stay at 64gb today, I have less hope that Apple would do this for the Pro line in the short term. I think they should do it. Gets the Pro to a more acceptable base storage capacity for a PC replacement.

But the backlit Smart Keyboard... YES PLEASE. Granted I only have a keyboard so far for my first gen 12.9” Pro... it’s been super annoying that the keys aren’t backlit.
 
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Yep, the claim that an A13X does not exist combined with rumors of a refresh with updated cameras really don’t jibe for me. Just can’t fathom an update that doesn’t include an SoC update to 13X.

After watching the “Pro” iPhones stay at 128gb today, I have less hope that Apple would do this for the Pro line in the short term. I think they should do it. Gets the Pro to a more acceptable base storage capacity for a PC replacement.
64 GB you mean.
 

Kal-037

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Some out there in internetland claim A13X doesn't exist.

What I mainly want is:
6 GB RAM minimum
128 GB base model (or else cheaper pricing of 256 GB model)

Bonuses would be:
Reinforced frame
Backlit Smart Keyboard
Ultra wideband communication
Better Face ID
Faster SoC
What sucks is you know Apple will do 6GB maximum until another 4 years. I want 8-12gb, imagine that much RAM though...
But I won’t get all worked up as 4GB is still a lot and with Ipad OS it runs perfectly and I’ve yet to have any reloads or problems.
My windows 8 2009 hp had 2gb and I had burned a huge blu-ray project without any issue.
I’ll admit I want RAM, WiFi 6, A13X, increased display quality and even better speakers... and the new cameras (just cause.) lol
 

MBX

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IMO the iPad Pro next update should have at least 8GB Ram. My Galaxy S10 has 8GB.

I know iOS is better with Ram management but still. More Pro apps and games are coming to the iPad Pro.
 

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IMO the iPad Pro next update should have at least 8GB Ram. My Galaxy S10 has 8GB.

I know iOS is better with Ram management but still. More Pro apps and games are coming to the iPad Pro.
The iPad Pro might have nice hardware but Apple I believe is really out and set to make their games work on all their hardware. The most expensive iPads are hardly bought by the gaming crowd or by teenagers but appeal more to professional users.

I agree of course that in theory having more ram might be useful for pro apps in the future.
 

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The iPhone 11 & iPhone 11 Pro have been announced. In the run up to the announcement, based on leaks and rumors, there was generally not a ton of excitement for this update. People really want a design refresh and 5G, apparently. Similarly, many can’t see what the point of updating the iPad Pro within 12 months would be or what they could possibly do to update it.

Now that we know more about the iPhone 11, I thought it’d be interesting to see what kind of technology could you see from these making their way into the iPad Pro from the iPhone line? Previously we’ve heard the cameras might be coming, and a popular request is that the RAM would get a bump across the line, which Apple still does *not* ever mention or list as a spec; there’s also debate as to whether an A13X chip is in the pipeline or not, with some suggesting there’s isn’t one but that there is a revised A12X out there (which I don’t think they would call A12X if it was part of a product announcement).

- U1 chip (ultra wideband location chip - not talked about at the event but listed as being in the phone)
- WiFi 6
- updated rear cameras (actually rumored, even if most people roll their eyes at any camera upgrades on an iPad)
- updated front-facing / TrueDepth camera (admit it— people DO use their iPads for FaceTime and such, why not?)
- Spatial Audio (don’t know much about this really— they didn’t really get into it, not sure how much of this is hardware components / hardware design).

Honestly, I feel like an A13X might be essential to the update though— I can’t imagine them not updating a flagship line without putting a new chip in it. Aside from speed, efficiency / battery life was the big selling point for the new A13– significantly better battery life claimed on the 11 Pro series.

My take on the new iPhones is that they’re nice updates— aside from the cameras, which tend to always be the big update, the phone is the sum of a lot of smaller updates that, together, elevate the device above the previous generation, even if it doesn’t make it a must-have for all owners of said previous generation. The only reason to not do the same for the iPad Pro is if the investment doesn’t justify the projected revenue, IMO. (Or if they simply can’t allocate the resources without risking other timelines.)

Anything else I’ve missed? What are your thoughts?
With the new 12MP, 4K 60FPS TrueDepth camera in the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro, I'm hoping they include that same camera in the possible spec bump iPad Pro. The front camera of an iPad is much more useful than the rear camera.
 
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