Things I am looking forward to under Trump

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  1. oneMadRssn macrumors 68040

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    I'm back :)

    A few words on President-elect Trump:

    1. Data predicted that white males with no college education would turn out for Trump. The sort of folks that usually do not vote. The data was spectacularly wrong about to what degree they would turn out for him. I must applaud Trump for taking a risky bet on these people and getting it so right. However, these folks are fickle, expect instant gratification, and may not be as energized in 2018 for the midterm elections or in 2020 for the next presidential election. I don't think it would take much for them go back to being apathetic in voting, or even to turn on Trump.

    Now that he's the man in power, he will be held responsible for whatever doesn't please them. Will they turn out again in 2018 and 2020? Will they turn out again when Trump is no longer an outsider and a disruptor, but rather an incumbent that has enacted some policies and made some deals that have yet to pay off? Will they turn out again when Trump's policies don't deliver on his promises? He has exactly 2 years, or 4 years, to show tangible actual "feelable" results to these folks in order to keep power. I am not sure showing such results is possible.

    2. I eagerly await Trump Care. It will be "something better." He has the legislative path now to actually repeal and replace the ACA. The GOP and Trump will also now face the wrath of voters if the replacement does not deliver on their grandiose promises. I actually expect they will keep the ACA mostly intact but tweak it as needed, not dissimilar from what the DNC has been suggesting. See point 1 above - I am really having a hard time imagining any replacement that will please the non-educated white male vote. Anything short of single-payer seems like a lose-lose proposition. Then again, I've been wrong :)

    3. I am optimistic about Trump's corporate tax policy. One thing I have always hated about the DNC's tax policies is how they tax corporations too much. If Trump, with the aid of the GOP-controlled congress, really does significantly lower the corporate tax rate, I think long-term that will be good for us. It will increase our debt though. This will not please Trump's base, per point 1 above.

    4. While I hoped for an alternative outcome, I can't help but take a little pleasure from the fact that Trump plans to cut income taxes. The cuts are relatively minor for those earning less. Those earning a lot will bring home a lot more though. This is good for me personally. According to isidewith.com, I stand to get an additional $35k/yr :) Not a bad raise.

    5. Trump's victory speech last night was actually pretty good. I really hope he is earnest this time. He will be getting a lot of criticism from both sides right off the bat when he takes office, so I hope he can maintain that positive outlook.

    6. Now that the GOP has both the executive branch and legislative branch, can they actually govern and affect positive change? Is the gridlock in congress over? I hope so. They've spent 8 years being obstructionists and cry-babies. I wonder if they even remember how to govern...

    7. I still think he is a vile and selfish human that so far contributed nothing productive to our society. All the tea-party folks still criticize Obama as being nothing more than a community organizer. Well Trump is nothing more than a reality TV star right now. That said, he won fair and square. I look forward to the next 4 years. As long as he doesn't launch any nukes and doesn't start a trade war with Asia, I don't think things will be so bad.
     
  2. BoxerGT2.5, Nov 9, 2016
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    How one campaigns and how they govern are two very different things. One thing his supporters have to understand, much like Obama supporters have learned, is that 3/4's of what he said he was going to do isn't going to happen. Just understand it and come to grips with it. No different than if Sanders won, his socialist policies wouldn't go anywhere unless he blew up congress (literally dropped a bomb on the capital).
     
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    The left keeps taking everything Trump ever said literally and then they complain about his dishonesty.
    It appears as if they don't get how populism works.
     
  4. oneMadRssn thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I think plenty of his voters took everything he said literally, and they hope he will literally do everything he said he would literally do. He promised them big changes that they would be able to feel in a very short amount of time.
     
  5. nia820, Nov 9, 2016
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    So when do we take him seriously? Was he not serious about building a wall? Was he not serious when he criticize a man and his wife whos son lost his life for this country? Was he not serious when mocked that disabled reporter?

    So perhaps he was joking about deporting immigrants or bring jobs back to America. Since he's such a joker.
     
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    Trump never said he will "deport immigrants".
     
  7. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    if this is accurate it would be great, but candidates tend to talk a big game only to get proposals shut down in congress so lets see.
     

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    He promised something fabulously better than Obamacare. Let's see what it turns out to be. Great plans that cost mega bucks. Remember in a budget, you have both the spending and the revenue. Let's see the ole Trust magic with programs that normally generates trillions in debt while lowering everyone's taxes. I always enjoy good magic as long at it's not a trick. ;)
     

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