This is clearly stolen... how to report

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by brendu, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. brendu macrumors 68020

    Apr 23, 2009
  2. CEmajr macrumors 601

    Dec 18, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    You can't really verify whether it's stolen or not so it's not your place to report it unless the seller mentions in the listing that it's stolen or told you via private message.
  3. Satnam1989 macrumors 65816

    Nov 16, 2011
    Well said, no one here has authority to police someone's auction/sale without concrete proof, I'm sure if if OP got screwed he/she will be selling the phone As-IS on a eBay or craigslist for parts or what ever you can to make up the money, so let the eBay seller be OP
  4. Maui19 macrumors regular

    Jul 16, 2007
    So everyone is cool with the ridiculous story? Ooooooooookay.....
  5. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    Wont be the first or last stolen item sold online.
    But without you having any proof that a crime was committed they cannot assume anything.
  6. 53kyle macrumors 65816


    Mar 27, 2012
    Sebastopol, CA
    Or, if you read the listing description, it was stolen by the "local seller" sold to the current seller without the password because HE STOLE IT, not the person on eBay. Just a theory.
  7. averlus macrumors regular

    Sep 21, 2013
    probably the person who had their new phone stolen
  8. old-wiz macrumors G3

    Mar 26, 2008
    West Suburban Boston Ma
    Good reason not to buy phones on eBay.
    Also it seems to be the seller's first sale.
  9. cyks macrumors 68020


    Jul 24, 2002
    Westchester County, NY
    From the listing:
    If they purchased it themselves, even with intent to sell, they would still likely know the carrier and should definitely know if it was 16 or 32GB.

    I'm going to have to agree with OP.
  10. brendu thread starter macrumors 68020

    Apr 23, 2009
    not to mention the poor sap who buys this thing will have a completely useless brick.


    regardless of who stole it, this is clearly stolen property being sold on ebay and I was just trying to send ebay a notice that they should check into it... I couldn't find an easy way to do that.
  11. scottish macrumors 6502a

    Aug 10, 2011
    Yeah you would ask that information wouldn't you.
  12. Fission macrumors regular

    Sep 26, 2013
    This is actually a great reason to buy on eBay...EBay protects the buyer petty well in the event of screwing...

    Craigslist? None at all.
  13. DarkSel macrumors 6502

    Dec 22, 2012
    Not really. The parts are still good.

    Heck, maybe I'll buy it (for a much lower price) just to have some spare parts :)
  14. g4manimac macrumors 6502

    Jan 22, 2013
    I but a lot on the streets through craigslist and trust me you come across a wide variety of things and NO no one has solid proof here's and example.....My boss (millionaire literally and don't care to argue the fact believe me or not)sold me 3 iPhones and one was a 5 but his son had forgot the password but it was on 6.1.3 so I did a dfu restore but stupid me I hit update so it updated from a password locked phone to a ios7 password and activation locked phone now this clearly isn't the case here but it does happen.Is this fishy yeah .....your business no if the original owner is looking for it he has a good idea where to find him because to use Siri you need a data connection and a data connection means find my iPhone is active........
  15. scotrinaf macrumors 6502

    Oct 6, 2013
    Blountville, TN
    I bought a phone from a guy locally a while back, after I bought it, he told me he thought it had been reported stolen... I listed it on eBay as a iPod touch and sold it, made it very clear to the potential buyers that there was the possibility it had been stolen, I was able to get my money back out of it thankfully...
  16. hansonjohn590 macrumors 6502

    Sep 14, 2013
    Well, the buyer bears some responsibility for being dumb enough to buy it.
  17. eoblaed macrumors 68020


    Apr 21, 2010
    The ebay seller didn't buy that device from anyone.

    It's about the only story he could come up with to justify why he doesn't have the passcode. The 'original' seller forgot to tell him? Really? This guy just handed over a wad of cash for a phone that he didn't even test or see working? Sorry, no. "Seller handed it to me and left without telling me the password". Really? And this transaction happened so fast the ebay lister never had a chance to ask? Who was the 'original' seller ... The Flash?

    And ... this guy contacted the 'original' seller to purchase the phone in the first place, if this was a legitimate transaction, he'd easily be able to get in touch with him and say "yo, need the passcode".

    Nope. No chance the ebay lister is telling the truth.
  18. AFDoc macrumors 68030

    Jun 29, 2012
    Colorado Springs USA for now
    Of course it's (most likely) stolen but it's not OP's place to make an issue of it unless he buys and is scammed by the guy. So many stupid people in the world, someone will buy it thinking they're getting an awesome deal. Kinda like the moron that paid $800+ for an "X Box 360, BOX" when they first came out. It clearly said many, many times in the title and in the body of the auction that it was ONLY THE BOX.... yet some fool not paying attention paid $800+ for it. Funny stuff.
  19. Lammercy macrumors regular


    Jun 4, 2012
    This. The phone is stolen or the seller is a moron.
  20. eoblaed macrumors 68020


    Apr 21, 2010
    Why not?

    If you see something bad happening, you shouldn't try to intervene even if when cause you no harm? Just let it go down without any attempt at intervention?

    I'm not saying he's obligated to, but there shouldn't be pressure for him not to.
  21. itjw macrumors 65816

    Dec 20, 2011
    Wait a minute... people sell stolen things???

    This is going to take a while to process. I only hope some day society can develop an agency, or "force" to try and combat such things. Until then, this is probably going to happen more and more.

    I for one, won't sleep well tonight.
  22. PNutts macrumors 601


    Jul 24, 2008
    Pacific Northwest, US
    Nobody saw anything bad happening here because nothing did. It was a poorly written eBay auction for a locked phone. Anything else is speculation. You're gonna' see a lot more of this with Activation Lock.

    If the guy in another thread tries to eBay his old 4s that's currently locked to his ex-girlfriend's iCloud account is the OP going to report that as stolen, too?
  23. trek360 macrumors 6502

    Oct 18, 2011
    I guess I'd rather see ebay auctions like this than stolen phones that can be hacked and taken over like before the security changes in ios7. The buyer isn't totally innocent if they buy this and cry foul later.


    Does anyone know what it sold for?
  24. eoblaed macrumors 68020


    Apr 21, 2010
    The girlfriend thing is at least a plausible story.

    The one on this ebay attempt is ridiculous on its face. It's poorly written because the guy couldn't come up with more clever way to mask the fact that it's stolen. Read my other post above on all the holes in that story. It's silly.

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