This is extremely creepy!!!!!

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by halfprep455, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. halfprep455 macrumors regular

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    Its called a purity ball and its where girls pledge that they will be "pure". They basically make the pledge that their fathers have complete control over their sexuality and that they cam pass it onto their husbands. This is very creepy and wrong!

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=KdM5sDXPu9w
     
  2. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Add this to the creepy Christian practices pile as well...
     
  3. SMM macrumors 65816

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    THAT is really creepy!
     
  4. Daveman Deluxe macrumors 68000

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    Yeah... the evangelical notion of Biblical fatherhood/husband-hood :confused: gets pretty wiggidy-whack in some ways... times two in the hands of the true nutjobs. Not just wiggidy-whack by the current expectations of the general U.S. public, but wiggidy-whack by what is laid out in the Bible.

    That said, "Purity balls" are brand new to me, and that "Christian Domestic Discipline" probably hasn't got much traction in general. Purity rings have been around awhile, but I've NEVER heard of it in terms of "promising your virginity to your dad", having hung out/lived with evangelicals for well over a decade. My understanding is that it's always been more of a token/reminder of God's expectations for us as Christians. And all the folks I know have been pretty realistic about the fact that jewelry isn't going to keep you from doing foo if your heart isn't in the right place... it's just a symbol with no special power of its own.

    But maybe I've just been hanging out with the realistic-yet-faithful people. :p
     
  5. Stampyhead macrumors 68020

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    Which is what most Christian people are. But unfortunately the ones who get the press are those who spank their wives and promise their virginity to their dads.
    It's fun to laugh at these weirdos, but let's not assume that all Christians are like this...
     
  6. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    They are no more representative of Christians as a whole than bin Laden is of Muslims at large. Right?
     
  7. Daveman Deluxe macrumors 68000

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    Yeah, I knew that. It was a tongue-in-cheek jab at the media/public perception of weirdos. Most people are cool unless you trust the newspaper over personal experience.
     
  8. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    Just out of curiosity, Mac, what in the hell brought you to this site?
     
  9. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    I could tell you, but then I'd have to spank you. ;)

    I actually heard about this from a friend a while ago. Didn't think it was worthy of it's own thread, and didn't have an opening to toss it out there until now.
     
  10. SMM macrumors 65816

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    I bet if you dressed up in leather and filmed this, the same people would call it pornography and want you to pull a ten spot.
     
  11. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    Do you have many such gems waiting for us? I'll never say you're not prepared to deliver the unexpected. Was that a sentence?
     
  12. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    I'm always full of something. :p
     
  13. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    "Christians" can be freaks just like anyone (and are in equal percentages to the rest of the population I'm sure). You can also use the Bible to justify anything. I 'm sure if I wanted to be a gender-bending, bestiality-obsessed pit woofie, that I could find something in the Bible to support it and make others think they are morally obligated to follow it.
     
  14. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    It's the idea of male infallibility that strikes me as creepy. The idea that a husband has the role of authoritarian just by virtue of his male-ness has always seemed just a little too convienent to me.

    Which is why the purity balls reminded me of this.
     
  15. Daveman Deluxe macrumors 68000

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    dswoodley: You can only use the Bible to justify anything you like if you conveniently ignore all the other parts. It particularly vexes me when people say such things as "The Old Testament says people should be stoned to death for doing foo" when the New Testament clearly says that while foo is still a sin, Christ paid the penalty. There is also a lot of ignorance/selective memory regarding a lot of the temple rituals in the OT which are no longer necessary because of the way Christ changed the relationship between humankind and God (circumcision, going to church while menstruating, etc.). There is also a lot of study going into different literary styles as well as an active debate regarding the nature of God's inspiration in the whole shebang.
    </theology>

    Seminary, when I eventually go, should be anything but boring.

    To reiterate an earlier point because I think it bears repeating for my sake as well as those who hear me: I find ninety-nine out of a hundred people I meet to be thoroughly enjoyable to spend time with. Those people come from all religious beliefs, walks of life, sexual preferences, etc. Same goes for that one out of a hundred.

    mactastic: Exactly. I'm comfortable with the "man as leader" idea for a family, but I am NOT comfortable with the "woman as submissive" idea. I think that evangelicals really don't get the concept of leadership as put forth in the Bible. I don't see how it can possibly be interpreted to mean "the man's word is law in his house". If I get married, I really want to marry someone who will stick to her guns when she's right, because I know how often I am wrong.
     
  16. FrankBlack macrumors 6502

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    Right you are. Let's not forget the crusades, where human beings did horrible things to other human beings, all in the name of Christianity.

    Fast forward a few centuries, to early New England, and the puritans. Your entire life, every day, was church, and the religious big shots were absolutely in charge. And of course, all it took was someone saying "WITCH!", and pointing at you and the next thing, you were being hanged, drowned, crushed, or something worse, all in the name of religion. Was this "terrorism"?

    Of minor interest: Local historians disagree on the location of Gallows Hill, where those found guilty of witchcraft were hanged. Some believe it is a small hilltop right near the center of Salem. Other feel it was more likely the windswept hill in Danvers (Salem Village, in the time of the witch trials) where the enormousDanvers Insane asylum was built. (This place was featured in the horror movie, "Level 9") Condos are being built there now. Wonder if the occupants of those condos will hear any creepy noises in the night? :eek:

    Back on topic: Yes, these "Purity Balls" are disturbing. What became of that odd movement called "The Promise Keepers"?
     
  17. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    Interesting aside. An ancestor on my mother's side was killed as a witch in Salem.

    I think you mean "Session 9".

    I wish people would stop saying "purity balls" 'cause it makes me giggle in a naughty sort of way.


    Lethal
     
  18. Daveman Deluxe macrumors 68000

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    They ran into some financial difficulty awhile back. In 1998, they had a huge free PK event at Washington, D.C. and it seems that a lot of people opted to attend that event instead of one of the paid events. It's much smaller than it used to be, though certainly still active.

    From my point of view, I don't think that it's any odder than any other para-church ministry except that all of its members and attendees are men. I think that the purported differences in the Christian faith between men and women are way overblown.
     
  19. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    This will be old news soon.

    Let's put the collective hive mind of MacRumors together, brain-storm an entirely new 'purity' product. We could all make a mint and buy new Apple gear with the money. Imagine the bulk-order discount.

    Simple and perfect.
     
  20. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    halfprep is relatively new here, so I think we can overlook the fact that we've done this subject before. At least twice.

    That said, the spanking thing is a hoot. Christian S&M???? :p
     
  21. MACDRIVE macrumors 68000

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    This is stupid as all hell; since when is a girl pure just because she's a virgin?

    Are humans pure just because they haven't had sex?

    I can think of some things that are pure, but they're definitely not humans.
     
  22. Aranince macrumors 65816

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    As a Christian, I believe that site is total bologna and that is most certainly not what we believe.
     
  23. solvs macrumors 603

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    Sounds like most of the marriages I know. Just assume you're wrong every time. Even if you aren't. It's just easier.

    Knew I'd seen it before.

    Never stops being icky.
     
  24. Dagless macrumors Core

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    It's just a figure of speech from a sexual POV.

    Either way it's something wrong. Sure parents sometimes know best, but complete sexual control?
     
  25. Iscariot macrumors 68030

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    Spanking a woman is our right as a male.

    I caught my girl stepping out. So I spanked her.

    Unfortunately, she was stepping out with Frank Shamrock, and I haven't been able to use the left side of my body since. Doctors did manage to get my head out of my ass, but my insurance wouldn't cover it because they considered it a "pre-existing condition".
     

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