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It is simply untrue. Dishonest, disingenuous, and unnecessary.
 
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it's a security measure that's seeing something in that app's functionality that may be an issue... and it's letting you know.

if you're sure it's ok, then you're ok. but it's hardly "dishonest, disingenuous, and unnecessary"; it actually comes of good intention.
 
Well, we can argue on the "unnecessary" part, but "will damage" is "dishonest". Apple doesn't know that, and the actual odds aren't that high.

(That said, the odds are also fairly good that Screens will issue an update to fix this on their end.)
 
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Well, we can argue on the "unnecessary" part, but "will damage" is "dishonest". Apple doesn't know that, and the actual odds aren't that high.

(That said, the odds are also fairly good that Screens will issue an update to fix this on their end.)

you're taking it too literally. there's something the OS sees in the app that triggers that message; perhaps, in terms of security, that 'will' is accurate. perhaps not. either way, it's a warning, and should, at least, be considered as such, and not some evil act on apple's part.

try checking printer error messages if you want to be seriously entertained...
 
you're taking it too literally. there's something the OS sees in the app that triggers that message; perhaps, in terms of security, that 'will' is accurate. perhaps not. either way, it's a warning, and should, at least, be considered as such, and not some evil act on apple's part.

try checking printer error messages if you want to be seriously entertained...
I once called the cops because my printer told me that it was low on ink. How dare it :mad:
 
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Well, we can argue on the "unnecessary" part, but "will damage" is "dishonest". Apple doesn't know that, and the actual odds aren't that high.

(That said, the odds are also fairly good that Screens will issue an update to fix this on their end.)
There is nothing wrong with the app. Nothing. It just hasn't been updated to support this unreleased OS. So for that, Apple will lie to users about the app.

Apple is completely and totally lost. Every single change made to Catalina has been made by lawyers apparently.
 
There is nothing wrong with the app. Nothing. It just hasn't been updated to support this unreleased OS. So for that, Apple will lie to users about the app.

Apple is completely and totally lost. Every single change made to Catalina has been made by lawyers apparently.

yes, that's it. it doesn't need an update from the app developer, it's what you said. and lawyers did, in fact, do all the programming for the new OS; if you check closely, you'll see that every line of code is legalese... :D
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I once called the cops because my printer told me that it was low on ink. How dare it :mad:

my printer told me to 'connect it' to print, so i shot it; don't tell me what to do...
 
There is nothing wrong with the app. Nothing. It just hasn't been updated to support this unreleased OS. So for that, Apple will lie to users about the app.

Apple is completely and totally lost. Every single change made to Catalina has been made by lawyers apparently.
Apple doesn't check every single app out there in the world. Most likely, they probably don't even know this app even exist. If macOS Catalina see something sketchy within an App, it will complain. Nothing malicious about it. This isn't Apple personally lying to users. It's the App Developers' responsibility to make such changes that would trigger such an error when Catalina releases to the public
 
Apple doesn't check every single app out there in the world. Most likely, they probably don't even know this app even exist. If macOS Catalina see something sketchy within an App, it will complain. Nothing malicious about it. This isn't Apple personally lying to users. It's the App Developers' responsibility to make such changes that would trigger such an error when Catalina releases to the public
Apple needs to relax. I want to be able to use my personal Mac in my personal home without all of the constant harassment from the OS. It has been getting steadily worse in every version of macOS, and now in Catalina, I am constantly bombarded by requests to approve everything.

Apple treats every single Mac like it is one that is used in their terrible open office spaces.

I remember when I used to laugh at how ridiculous Windows was with the UAC. macOS is now officially worse. At least I can download a file on windows without having to approve every single website's access to my Downloads folder!
 
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Apple needs to relax. I want to be able to use my personal Mac in my personal home without all of the constant harassment from the OS. It has been getting steadily worse in every version of macOS, and now in Catalina, I am constantly bombarded by requests to approve everything.

Apple treats every single Mac like it is one that is used in their terrible open office spaces.

I remember when I used to laugh at how ridiculous Windows was with the UAC. macOS is now officially worse. At least I can download a file on windows without having to approve every single website's access to my Downloads folder!

have you read any of the above posts? and do you really think apple should design the OS just for you, and not aim for as many users as possible (ie including people in 'terrible open space offices').

you need to relax; apple needs to make things better, and safer, even if it momentarily inconveniences you.
 
Apple needs to relax. I want to be able to use my personal Mac in my personal home without all of the constant harassment from the OS. It has been getting steadily worse in every version of macOS, and now in Catalina, I am constantly bombarded by requests to approve everything.

Apple treats every single Mac like it is one that is used in their terrible open office spaces.

I remember when I used to laugh at how ridiculous Windows was with the UAC. macOS is now officially worse. At least I can download a file on windows without having to approve every single website's access to my Downloads folder!

same person that whines and moans when there data gets stolen....hilarious.

don't like it , buy windows.
 
you're taking it too literally.

No, they phrased it aggressively, and they probably did so intentionally.

there's something the OS sees in the app that triggers that message;

The OS sees that the app isn't notarized.

perhaps, in terms of security, that 'will' is accurate.

It isn't.

try checking printer error messages if you want to be seriously entertained...

Yes, printer errors are famously terrible. Are you saying Apple usability has the same reputation?
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If macOS Catalina see something sketchy within an App,

There isn't anything "sketchy" in the app, though (there might be, but that's not what macOS detected). What there is is a lack of notarization.

The dialog comes up because the app isn't notarized, i.e. the version hasn't been reviewed by Apple. It should say that; instead, it defaults to a far more negative assumption.
 
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No, they phrased it aggressively, and they probably did so intentionally.

The OS sees that the app isn't notarized.
It isn't.

Yes, printer errors are famously terrible. Are you saying Apple usability has the same reputation?
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There isn't anything "sketchy" in the app, though (there might be, but that's not what macOS detected). What there is is a lack of notarization.

The dialog comes up because the app isn't notarized, i.e. the version hasn't been reviewed by Apple. It should say that; instead, it defaults to a far more negative assumption.

ok, good. thanks for the details. and hopefully the OP reads your post (as opposed to just continuing ranting).

no, i think printer errors are in a class by themselves (and would make a good netflix series)...
 
This isn't the typical message for unnotarized apps. In fact, it's a message I haven't seen myself. I suspect that this particular binary has been flagged in a specific way because it breaks something. That would be closer to the Incompatible App thing they have done in other releases. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201861
 
The main thing I see it's a program code that can be used maliciously. Such as when an unsuspecting person clicks on a website and gets a popup offering on screen tech support, why not let someone know it's running and give them the choice, sounds like Apple is taking the high road of saying, "if you aren't certain, we are telling you what it can do, it's up to you to decide or research it" so in other words, if you run a program for screen sharing and know you do, then uncheck the box and hit Ok and let it be. I wouldn't want their team of lawyers on me.
 
We just have to kill stupid SIP like we've been doing for the last releases. Hopefully these senseless errors in judgement will be minimized this way. I agree, Apple is having severe problems and the stories from their own engineers is heartbreaking. I don't want to say RIP Apple, but I'm afraid we're moving in that direction.
 
We just have to kill stupid SIP like we've been doing for the last releases. Hopefully these senseless errors in judgement will be minimized this way. I agree, Apple is having severe problems and the stories from their own engineers is heartbreaking. I don't want to say RIP Apple, but I'm afraid we're moving in that direction.

when you say 'we'; how many mac users do you think actually disable SIP? 12? 12 million?? and what exactly is the 'senseless error in judgement'; SIP? probably good for most people (who never need to disable it). plus, what stories from 'their own engineers'? can you point us to that?
 
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This isn't the typical message for unnotarized apps. In fact, it's a message I haven't seen myself. I suspect that this particular binary has been flagged in a specific way because it breaks something. That would be closer to the Incompatible App thing they have done in other releases. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201861
Weird, that linked article is actually incorrect for this specific part:

PowerPC applications won't run on OS X Mavericks or later.
PowerPC applications stopped running on OS X Lion, not Mavericks.
 
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