This man sure can give a speech.

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by freeny, Apr 3, 2009.

  1. freeny macrumors 68020

    freeny

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2005
    Location:
    Location: Location:
    #1
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/03/obama-calls-out-european_n_182740.html

    I have only read this snippet and not the entire speech, but Obama sure is damn good with words.

    ==================
    From the article-

    Urging a common effort to restructure the world economy and rebuild international alliances, President Barack Obama did not hesitate on Friday to call out his own country for "arrogant" patriotism and Europe for "insidious" anti-Americanism.

    "In America, there is a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive. But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what is bad. On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common. They are not wise. They do not represent the truth. They threaten to widen the divide across the Atlantic and leave us both more isolated. They fail to acknowledge the fundamental truth that America cannot confront the challenges of this century alone, but that Europe cannot confront them without America."

    These were, perhaps, the sharpest and most condemning words that Obama offered to the largely adoring crowd. Speaking at a town hall meeting in France, the president outlined and pledged a new internationalism, one forged on commitments from disparate nations and melded around common interests. In this frame, he pledged a united front tackling climate change, the war in Afghanistan, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the global financial crisis. He also noted several changes that his administration has already made that put American more in line with international sentiment. The list included the impending closure of Guantanamo Bay and the outlawing of torture, both of which -- when announced -- drew great applause from the crowd. "America is changing," he declared at one point, "but it cannot be America alone that changes."

    Time and again, however, he reverted back to need to move beyond the divisions that had marked the presidency prior to his. Stressing a "renewed relationship for a new generation" his speech brought the crowd to applause on several occasions.

    "It's more difficult to break down walls of division than to simply allow our differences to build and our resentments to fester," he said. "So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years, we've allowed our alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there is something more that has crept into our relationship... This is our generation, this is our time, and I am confident that we can meet any challenges as long as we are together."
     
  2. arkitect macrumors 601

    arkitect

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Location:
    Bath, United Kingdom
    #2
    His speeches are excellent…

    I did however find him a tad less impressive during impromptu questions and press conferences.

    Mind you — he is at least able to scramble together a coherent reply! :)
     
  3. hexonxonx macrumors 601

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2007
    Location:
    Denver Colorado
    #3
    I have ever only heard one of his speeches and it was about two weeks after he took office. He sounded nervous.

    I never once heard him speak during the campaigns. I stay away from TV for the most part.
     
  4. takao macrumors 68040

    takao

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2003
    Location:
    Dornbirn (Austria)
    #4
    for a speech on a NATO summit do you expect any less ?

    and asking for a new definition of the NATO into a more trigger happy coalition sure isn't want this world needs
     
  5. ntrigue macrumors 68040

    ntrigue

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2007
    #5
    I also enjoy these speeches. This is exactly how the President should operate.
     
  6. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #6
    Doesn't the speech writer deserve more credit? I don't think Obama writes everything himself, or any president for that matter. Obama might be better at speeches but the prompt too question and answer is where he is not as fluid.
     
  7. arkitect macrumors 601

    arkitect

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Location:
    Bath, United Kingdom
    #7
    You're correct:

    Step forward Jon Favreau

    Here's a link that you might find interesting.
    Guardian
     
  8. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

    Rt&Dzine

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2008
    #8
    Is this the guy who deserves the credit?

    EDIT: arkitect beat me to it.
     
  9. Dmac77 macrumors 68020

    Dmac77

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2008
    Location:
    Michigan
    #9
    He's a good speaker as long as he has his teleprompter. If he doesn't have it, he turns into a bumbling idiot, and his favorite words become uhhhhh... and ummmmmm....

    Bush wasn't much better though, I'll admit that.

    Don
     
  10. arkitect macrumors 601

    arkitect

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Location:
    Bath, United Kingdom
    #10
    Wow!
    You asked Dubbyah any question and his little eyes glazed over… you could see the panicky "get me out of here and back to the ranch"… flash through his little brain.

    Obama at least manages to deal with the question.
    Quite as smoothly as it could be? No.

    But to say Bush was better is just being deluded.

    Oh, hang on. It's you again…
     
  11. mactastic macrumors 68040

    mactastic

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    Location:
    Colly-fornia
    #11
    Oh you're a sharp one... I bet you won't get fooled again! :D
     
  12. Rt&Dzine, Apr 3, 2009
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2011

    Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

    Rt&Dzine

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2008
    #12
    Bush was entertaining ... I'll give him that.
     
  13. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #13
    Bush was better off script, Obama is better reading speeches.
     
  14. NT1440 macrumors G4

    NT1440

    Joined:
    May 18, 2008
    Location:
    Hartford, CT
    #14
    Yes, THINKING about your answer instead of just babbling made up words is so horrible....:rolleyes:
     
  15. arkitect macrumors 601

    arkitect

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Location:
    Bath, United Kingdom
    #15
    Of course he was… :rolleyes:
    Here's a gem:
     
  16. srl7741 macrumors 68020

    srl7741

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2008
    Location:
    In my world
    #16
    Speeches

    I'm not sure why but every time I saw President Bush give a speech all I wanted to do is break out laughing. I've never been like that with anyone, he just had some thing about his deliveries. Politics aside even if he was a CEO of a local company is would be the same for me.

    I just enjoyed the humor of it all.
     
  17. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #17
    Bush was not the smoothest person reading a speech. You can't say that he was a great public speaker.
     
  18. Ant1-Hero macrumors regular

    Ant1-Hero

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2008
    Location:
    Montreal
    #18
    What!

    The guy reads off a TelePrompTer, he has messed up in speeches more then a few times now. Its obvious he is just another political robot, and as soon as people stop drinking the kool-aid, you'll realize he is just a darker skinned politician
     
  19. mactastic macrumors 68040

    mactastic

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    Location:
    Colly-fornia
    #19
    Bush might have been better off script than on script -- maybe. That point is highly debatable.

    But Obama still handily bests Bush in both catagories of public speaking, even if Obama is better with a prepared speech than off-the-cuff remarks.

    But really, aren't most people better off with prepared remarks than they are with extemporaneous speaking? It that really something that's all that remarkable?

    And regarding teleprompters...
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    If it's good enough for St. Ronnie, why can't Obama use one?
     
  20. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #20
    Is a prompter really the issue, all presidents use them now. I think the problem is getting too comfortable using them. Didn't Clinton say he had his whole speech on paper if the prompter failed.
     
  21. mactastic macrumors 68040

    mactastic

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    Location:
    Colly-fornia
    #21
    It's an issue only insofar as you're going to see it used by conservatives as an attack on Obama, as if no other president had ever relied on the use of a teleprompter. It's classic Rovian politics to attack your opponent's strength.

    Just Google "Obama teleprompter" and see what pops up in the images section. Tons of captioned images suggesting that Obama is "the teleprompter president". It's as if these people are so stupid they actually think Obama is the first person to use them; and further, that he uses it to hide some intellectual deficiency.
     
  22. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #22
    I don't know if Carter used one but every president since him has I'm sure.
     
  23. paddy macrumors 6502a

    paddy

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2005
    Location:
    TN
    #23
    I can't believe people actually make any sort of noise about the fact Obama uses a teleprompter. What's he going to do, memorise the thing?
     
  24. NT1440 macrumors G4

    NT1440

    Joined:
    May 18, 2008
    Location:
    Hartford, CT
    #24
    Que the "ZOMG he spends more time memorizing speeches than coming up with policy!" complaints.

    People who want to bitch will find a way. I say let them sit there continuing to look foolish.
     
  25. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #25
    No matter who is in power the other side with bitch. It is nothing new and it won't change.
     

Share This Page