This ruined my day, part 2: Hot Dogs Raise Risk of Pancreatic Cancer

840quadra

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wow.. an other food you can't or shouldn't eat.

Soon I will be on a diet consisting of, low fat water, baked rice cakes, and vacuum grown hydrophonic carrots. Actually I am quite healthy, but still, every week comes a study on some food that has something bad in it, that can kill you.

The key to life is balance, everything in moderation.

840
looking for his diet water.
 

wdlove

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I haven't eaten hot dogs or processed luncheon meats in a long time. Just don't care for the taste or consistency. Now to wonder if it has a cumulative effect, because I had a lot of it as a child. Also surprised to see that pork was listed as a higher risk. Have decreased red meat in favor of chicken, fish, and pork because of heart risk.
 

craigdawg

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It depends on what your definition of "meat" is

topicolo said:
Are you sure it's even meat?
Our FDA sez:

"Meat" Derived By Advanced Meat Bone Separation & Meat Recovery Systems
The definition of "meat" was amended in December 1994 to include any "meat" product that is produced by advanced meat/bone separation machinery. This meat is comparable in appearance, texture, and composition to meat trimmings and similar meat products derived by hand. This new machinery separates meat from bone by scraping, shaving, or pressing the meat from the bone without breaking or grinding the bone. Product produced by advanced meat recovery (AMR) machinery can be labeled using terms associated with hand-deboned product (e.g., "beef trimmings" and "ground beef").

The AMR machinery cannot grind, crush, or pulverize bones to remove edible meat tissue, and bones must emerge essentially intact. The meat produced in this manner can contain no more than 150 milligrams (mg) of calcium per 100 grams product (within a tolerance of 30 mg. of calcium). Products that exceed the calcium content limit must be labeled "mechanically separated beef or pork" in the ingredients statement.

Mechanically Separated Meat (MSM)
A paste-like and batter-like meat product produced by forcing beef or pork bones, with attached edible meat, under high pressure through a sieve or similar device to separate the bone from the edible meat tissue. Mechanically separated meat has been used in certain meat and meat products since the late 1970's.

In 1982, a final rule published by FSIS on mechanically separated meat said it was safe and established a standard of identity for the food product. Some restrictions were made on how much can be used and the type of products in which it can be used. This restrictions were based on concerns for limited intake of certain components in MSM like calcium. Mechanically separated meat must be labeled as "mechanically separated beef or pork" in the ingredients statement. Hot dogs can contain no more than 20% mechanically separated beef or pork.
 

Apple Hobo

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A series of tubes
No need for this to upset anyone.

3 keys to food happiness

• Moderation
• Exercise
• Ignore all latest health fads

This week hotdogs are bad. Next week it will be something else. Next month they'll say hotdogs maybe aren't as bad as once thought, and that eating one a week is actually good for you. :rolleyes: I'm hearing more and more about how too much water is bad for you, but not after years of health "experts" telling us to practically drown ourselves for hydration. :rolleyes:

Eat what you want, but get out of the house. :cool:

I also ate two hotdogs last night. The horrors! :p
 

Abstract

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Apple Hobo said:
Next month they'll say hotdogs maybe aren't as bad as once thought, and that eating one a week is actually good for you. :rolleyes:
C'mon, they'll NEVER say that!!! :p

Why do researchers do this type of obvious research wher ethe outcome could probably be predicted by any one of us?
 

Lacero

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Some hot dogs are made from prime cuts and NOT beef by-products. In fact, if you still love the taste of hot dogs but don't care for the mass-processing, go to a local butcher shop or specialty meat market, where you can see them making the hot dogs. They taste much better than the commercial store bought products as well.
 

plinden

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I just had a couple of hotdogs for lunch - don't know how I missed this thread till now.
 

craigdawg

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Lacero said:
Some hot dogs are made from prime cuts and NOT beef by-products. In fact, if you still love the taste of hot dogs but don't care for the mass-processing, go to a local butcher shop or specialty meat market, where you can see them making the hot dogs. They taste much better than the commercial store bought products as well.
Niman Ranch sells an all-beef hot dog called a Fearless Frank online. I've seen them at Trader Joe's. They're kind of expensive and still have a lot of fat and sodium.
 

Mord

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how ironic that steve jobs got it and is a vegan :rolleyes:

i to am vegan so no worrys for me
 

snkTab

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I guess my practice of getting a fountain drink and two hot dogs every day at the gas station is driving me to an early grave.

but really, 50 cent hot dogs, that's hard to beat.
 
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