Aesthetical reason (new form), plus 16 Pro has awful battery, with 90 cycles it gives me about 4.5 hours of screen time. Today I used Air with Maps and stuff, it gave me 6 hours of screen time and I even have 10% more percents of the battery
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Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)
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You know what would be cool? Discovering these panels have been made by LG all this time, or some of them (like the beloved G9N), and Samsung making GVC or GH3.
Imagine that of a conspiracy 😂
Nope, both screens without True Tone. You can see the difference in the dark too. Again the same brightness (about 2000nits), no true tone
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You're within the return window, correct? Unclear based on your earlier post, but just return it and re-buy if possible.
Probably just a bad unit, but damn, when an LG panel comes out bad, it really comes out bad, lol.
Mick, can I ask you something? I got a nice panel, at least for my liking, but this 17 pro has a weird gap on the top right, it’s not that big, but I can see some internals there between frame and screen. I’m thinking to return it, idk. What would you do?
In my case, as a hobbyist photographer for over 20 years with many paid gigs, I use apple products mainly for the Color. For the color calibration in their screens (MacBook iPad iPhone) and for the coloring in the cameras. I can’t stand any android phone, Apple delivers the Colors I’m expecting to see when I edit my pictures. I am very sensitive to color. For the same reason I left Sony and I can only use Canon nowadays.
My first oled display in a phone was the iPhone X and that screen was perfect. Then I switched to the 13 pro max and the screen had a slight green tint that I could see. Not as bad as Samsung phones I used to see from friends, but still I could notice. Now this 17 pro max is just a tad greener than the 13 pro. Am I wrong wanting a more color neutral screen than in the phone I used to have 8 years ago?
Fortunately I haven’t experienced uniformity issues. But yes this one also shows worse viewing angles than my previous phones. And I’m so pissed because in the Apple Store all the Pro had a gorgeous screen and all the pro max had this green tinting screen, but I wanted the bigger size.
This is I think the whole entire reason some peole
Cannot be unconvinced all LG = crap
They haven’t seen a good one and LG seems to have lower standards on average. Anecdotally …
Yes, I recall you mentioning it. I would return it.
Man, let’s get out of this endless loop. I don’t do it because I don’t have the time — and someone would probably say I need to get a life — but if I started collecting examples of really bad Samsung panels with terrible uniformity and more color tint than the Pink Panther, I’d never finish.
There are truly bad panels in every manufacturer.
What this thread is meant to say is that you can get a bad experience with Samsung panels too, and here I believe we can all agree on this part.
The human eye spots the green faster than the pink/reddish tint, and you are not in the wrong for wanting a good panel - in fact all of us want this and that's the very issue of this thread and its many pages - you're by no means protected by a Samsung panel just because it's Samsung, that's the thing.
We also came to agree that LG panels tend to be more colour accurate than Samsung's which tend to oversaturate colours.
So whether it's green or reddish tint, I believe it's more important to focus on uniformity and lack of grain. We also discussed how all OLEDS have weird tints when viewed at an angle, it's just that green is more obvious than red.
Samsung is just a popular choice, but as we discussed here, it's popular without any clear evidence - hell, Samsung panels can have green tint and grain too.
BTW, I’ll say it again. Once properly calibrated, my Samsung QD-OLED TV has the best IQ I’ve ever seen.
It actually reminds me (though not quite the same) of those wonderful plasma TVs Panasonic used to make back in the day.
I’m saying this so no one thinks I have anything against Samsung.
It actually reminds me (though not quite the same) of those wonderful plasma TVs Panasonic used to make back in the day.
I’m saying this so no one thinks I have anything against Samsung.
I agree. The calibration in this panel is better than other brands from my workmates around, and so are the viewing angles with compared to Samsung s24+ etc.
however for example a mate has the iPhone 14 with Samsung G9P panel and it’s just perfect compared to mine. It’s a bit embarrassing seeing how a 3 year newer phone and way more expensive has a worse panel.
But yes, so far the uniformity of this panel is perfect, quite sharp and very good calibration. And in this case this one is a bit punchier in color than my previous 13 pro max (and this is LG, the 13 is Samsung).
At home I have a LG OLED and spent sometime calibrating it and decided not to obsess that much, I’ll do same with this phone for my mental health xD.
If when you say "perfect" you mean brighter, that's because newer phones hit maximum brightness only outdoors, peak brightness for 17 series, indoors, is around 1600 nits only...
If you mean the lack of tint when viewed at an angle, that's unfortunately screen lottery - we've seen some really bad and grainy G9P panels in this thread :')
They definitely have bad ones but I think the lg lows are even lower
Bad is still bad by the end of the day though
Depends but i have a great LG even at low brightness so they arent bad by the end of the day.
I dont mean brightness lol I mean bad panels.
Yes, LG produces some great screens. It's a lotto.
Keep comparing mine to my 13 pro max.
The GH3 in the 17 pro max is perfect in low light brightness greys, whereas the Samsung G9N in the 13 pro max is super green (viewing up front).
In the new phone the pictures pop out a bit more (even when comparing to a 15 pro max with G9N here at work), so overall the panel is good (also I guess because of the higher nits), but the bottom green tint when tilting a bit is quite annoying.
I live in Hong Kong, so not possible to return to play the panel lottery. You can only return if something is really defective, which is not easy to proof, especially because all pro max I have seen in the apple stores here have the same issue...
I share your impressions. I had a 15 Pro G9N, not greenish like your 13 Pro Max but pinkish at the bottom, and now an LG panel which, like yours, is perfectly uniform even at low brightness, and where photos also look better and more natural than on the G9N.
Does the color shift when tilted bother me a bit? Of course, I’m not going to deny it. But paraphrasing MrGimper, they’d have to take this phone from my cold dead hands.