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Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)

I’m comparing two of them side by side:

-17 pro max 256GB Deep Blue (Samsung G9P panel)
-17 pro max 256GB Cosmic Orange (Samsung G9N panel)

Both phones have True Tone and Night Mode turned off. They’re running the same backup, so everything is identical.

I’m comparing them at their peak brightness, but I turn off the screen for a minute to avoid asbl/auto dimming.

The G9P is slightly brighter, but I’m not sure if the brand-new G9N needs some hours to break in. However, the G9N is definitely more vibrant.

Off-axis performance is similar, and they appear to shift and get dimmer the farther you go off-angle at the same rate.

The G9P white balance leans slightly more yellow, while the G9N leans slightly more blue.

I compared them both with my professionally calibrated Sony A95L QD-OLED TV, and although they’re both close, the G9N is more of a match, but only by a hair.
 
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They're all different, regardless of the manufacturer, Samsung or LG. Both manufacturers produce good and bad panels. My GH3 is beautiful; I could barely tell the difference between it and the equally excellent G9N panel in my 15 PM. You can see slight color shifts when tilting it extremely forward or backward, but I read somewhere that this is normal for OLED displays. And who tilts their iPhone that far anyway?
What I find important is that the display is uniform and doesn't have a color cast. Most of the PMs I've handled had a red tint, which I found truly awful.
 
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Faerlina said:
They're all different, regardless of the manufacturer, Samsung or LG. Both manufacturers produce good and bad panels. My GH3 is beautiful; I could barely tell the difference between it and the equally excellent G9N panel in my 15 PM. You can see slight color shifts when tilting it extremely forward or backward, but I read somewhere that this is normal for OLED displays. And who tilts their iPhone that far anyway?
What I find important is that the display is uniform and doesn't have a color cast. Most of the PMs I've handled had a red tint, which I found truly awful.
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You’re absolutely right - my two G9Q displays were so different when directly compared one to another!
 
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The Pro Max models apparently have the worst screens - you really have to be lucky to get a good display. It seems to be the same with the Air models.
The Pro models are the best; almost all of them seem to have a G9N panel, and you hardly ever hear anything negative about them.
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Exactly this ! And this year the G9Q is better calibrated compared to G9N. This is what I have been told from an apple technician in Zurich store. And he come firmed the above statements.
 
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24 hour review with the G9Q screen.

There’s no grain and the whites are super white. No tints when tilting the phone. And the screen looks the same at any angle. Uniformity is also good. Did not notice any pink patches.

My GH3 16 pro max while uniform had this yellow green tint and the brightness decreased when it was tilted even a little. And the contrast was bad when not looking head on. The whites were more gray and grainy. Couldn’t believe it was a “flagship” screen

I think 17 Pro is the way to go if you want a no BS experience. LG should stop and just stick to home appliances.
 
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I downzised form a 16 pro max to a regular 17 and got a fantastic G9P display. Now after 2,5 months I’m missing the larger screen size and will probably upgrade to a 17 pro max since the air hasn’t got the wide angle camera.
The only thing that worries me a little is the display lottery. I’ll let you know how it turned out.
 
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I downzised form a 16 pro max to a regular 17 and got a fantastic G9P display. Now after 2,5 months I’m missing the larger screen size and will probably upgrade to a 17 pro max since the air hasn’t got the wide angle camera.
The only thing that worries me a little is the display lottery. I’ll let you know how it turned out.
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Oh, a new lottery player! I'm curious, please keep us updated! 😎😅😅
 
Like many others have said, the iPhone 13 PM was the best of the bunch (I've owned almost every iPhone generation since the 3G...I missed out on the X, the 12 and the 14, but had everything else...) ... certainly the best out of the XS Max, 11 Pro Max, 15 Pro Max and 16 Pro Max all of which I've owned.

Last year I returned my original 16 Pro Max as the screen was so poor..mainly uniformity. The replacement was better, but then someone knocked my hand at London Bridge tube and the phone ended up on the concrete platform with a smashed to smithereens screen (despite being in a case...Ceramic Shield my ****). Funnily enough the replacement screen was far better... completely uniform however it had a very noticeable tilt shift.

Collected a 17 Pro Max (blue, 256gb) from the Covent Garden store on Saturday afternoon and I'm delighted with the screen. Uniform and crisp white using TrueTone, no colour shift to the bottom or top, and very little tilt shift (nowhere near as bad as last year). I am very happy! The best screen I've had since my 13 PM.

My friends laugh, but for me the quality of the screen is so important. I don't want to notice the change in the white background on a line of text as I read from side to side FGS. I would happily pay a (small!) premium if I could be guaranteed a bright, crisp, white, even display with a wide viewing angle probably over and above any other feature. But I guess I'll need to wait for that.
 
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Well, I've finally removed the tempered glass.

Can you give me your opinion?
TT OFF
 

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indezah said:
24 hour review with the G9Q screen.

There’s no grain and the whites are super white. No tints when tilting the phone. And the screen looks the same at any angle. Uniformity is also good. Did not notice any pink patches.

My GH3 16 pro max while uniform had this yellow green tint and the brightness decreased when it was tilted even a little. And the contrast was bad when not looking head on. The whites were more gray and grainy. Couldn’t believe it was a “flagship” screen

I think 17 Pro is the way to go if you want a no BS experience. LG should stop and just stick to home appliances.
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Color me surprised!

No one who had read your previous messages could think you were going to say that. Should I ask if Samsung pays you? Do you have something personal against LG? A bit of objectivity, please.
 
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I see we’re going back to the irrational ‘Samsung is better than LG no matter what,’ making new users who come into this thread believe that every Samsung is better than every LG.

Let me propose something — and I’m being dead serious. Does anyone want to bet that I can find more than 300 documented cases on MacRumors, Reddit, and the Apple Support forums of Samsung panels with poor uniformity and pink tint when viewed straight on?

I’m not joking. Whoever wants to bet, say so. Enough with the nonsense and childish fanboyism.
 
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Update on my comparison between the G9p and G9n:

My G9n (orange pm 256) and G9p (blue pm 256) are virtually identical in terms of their overall quality. The G9n has a slightly cooler tone in bright whites and a warmer tone in darker grayscale tones, such as deep grays.
However, the G9p has slightly brighter highlights, while the G9n has slightly higher full-screen brightness.
Off axis performance and uniformity is a wash.
Despite these minor differences, it’s challenging to choose one over the other, and I consider both panels to be equally good.
 
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As I mentioned before, I had 6(!!) iPhone 17 PMs here. In the end, I kept a GH3, which has a really nice, even screen. When you tilt it forward, it has a (slight but consistent) green tint. When you tilt it backward, it becomes pure white, also completely even. Both color casts are only noticeable on a pure white background and are barely perceptible.

I did some research and found out that this is the typical "fingerprint" of LG OLEDs (greenish when tilted forward, bluish when tilted backward). Samsung also has these color shifts; they can't change the laws of physics—but they have a more sophisticated system so that our eyes barely perceive them, if at all.
My advice: make sure your panel is even. That's the most important thing. That it is not, for example, yellowish on top and reddish on the bottom, or vice versa. And that it doesn't have a red tint, which many Samsung panels do, but also the GVC panels, as I've discovered.
Samsung is not inherently better than LG, not at all!
 
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