Thoughts on Obama Joker Image.

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  1. bamaworks macrumors 6502

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    Lately I've been seeing this plastered up on telephone poles, bus stations, etc. and cannot for the life of me figure out why the designer used the joker's likeness for an image attempting to assert Obama as socialist.

    Call me crazy, but wasn't the joker an anarchist? Don't the accusers decry Obama's 'socialist' motives as the government having too much involvement... instead of not existing at all?

    Maybe I'm reading too far into it....
     
  2. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Nope, you're right. It's a cool image, but it fails as a message in a big way. It's never made any sense.
     
  3. gilkisson macrumors 65816

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    It's propaganda. It doesn't have to make sense, and it isn't expected to, really, by the purveyors of the propaganda. All it has to do is evoke a visceral image, goad people into a response. The less thinking, the better (at least for the propagandists' purposes).

    And you went and broke their spell. Shame on you...:D
     
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    Its seems an attempt to parody the Bush "Regime Change" posters that went up during the aftermath of the Iraq war hypocricy. Unfortunately as stated above, it makes no sense and lacks the irony the artist was hoping for. The Joker was an anarchist which is the complete opposite of socialism. Ironically, the joker over a bush image would be much more successful seeing as the "Less government and taxes" is more in line with anarchy and the Joker.
     
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    Agreed. The image itself is pretty cool, and artistic... Although, this form of political message is vastly irrelevant for sure.


    As for the art specifically, to me the 'joker' makeup is more indicative of something being hidden. I don't think the artist was trying to compare him directly to the 'anarchist-joker' of Batman. It's like he's putting on make up to disguise himself as something he's not.

    Also, it may simply be placing BO in the position of being 'evil' as the joker is today's most pop-culture symbol of evil.



    True, true... it's the CONSERVATIVES who aren't so clever. Liberals on the other hand only create beautiful, artistic, relevant political art... like this effigy of Sarah Palin:

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  7. BaronvdB macrumors 6502

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    Just an FYI-A joker face has already been done on George W. like over a year ago and i don't remember hearing anyone complaining about that one like they are with the obama one. This one was from vanityfair. The president (rep or dem) is gonna get picked on by the opposite party no matter what.
    Link:http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/07/bush-as-joker.html

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  8. bamaworks thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Certainly all public figures are open to ridicule, I just prefer ridicule to be at least somewhat accurate / sensical. I mean... couldn't they have photoshopped a big white marxist beard on him or something? At least that would have been accurate if the artist was going to slap 'socialsm' in all bolded caps.
     
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    Obama has been working quite busily to extend/increase the power of the federal government. That's a fact. Banking, cars, medicine, etc. That effort is anathema to those who don't like such an increase in power over us. Isn't that easy to understand? I and many others see it as dead-wrong. Even evil.

    The Joker was evil. So, quite a logical idea.

    Obviously, anybody who thinks that Obama's ideas are good and proper is going to be offended. How sad, too bad, tough stuff. :D

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  10. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    I don't remember that one being plastered all over in public. It's not really a valid comparison.
     
  11. NC MacGuy macrumors 603

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    the U.S. is doomed. There ares no rational discussions anymore. The left has dug in and the right has too. Pictures like this or the Palin pics or the Pelosi pics do nothing more than inflame already hostile views.

    Not an Obama fan. Sold out. Different guy catering to same $$$$$$$$$$$$'s. Still feel pic's like this aren't really appropriate but they've gone both ways. That's what freedom of speech is all about. It sucks but you see them and move on.
     

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  12. gilkisson macrumors 65816

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    Yep. Keeps the unwashed masses distracted, though, doesn't it? Bread and circuses?

    Sad, actually.
     
  13. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Source?
     
  14. NC MacGuy macrumors 603

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    My head. It's my opinion my friend.

    Anytime I try and have a dialogue here or with my left leaning RL friends the dialogue turns nasty. Usually winds up with "well GW did..... Blah, blah, blah."

    They don't remember I was with them when we were railing on GW a few years back and wasn't a McCain supporter.

    I do not follow blindly.

    The most reasonable thing I've seen from anyone in the media lately is Bill Moyers on Real Time w. Bill Maher. I agree with 99% of everything he said.
     
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    Was an excellent interview.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gSQ2DWkVE0

    BTW, it's Real Time; Politically Incorrect was his earlier show.
     
  16. NC MacGuy macrumors 603

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    Sorry. I'm living in the past.:eek: I just call it the Bill Maher show. Will edit that. Thanks.
     
  17. bamaworks thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Sure, but it isn't easy to understand why someone would edit the likeness of someone with a totally opposite viewpoint and use it to describe the counterposition. For example, would you photoshop Stalin-esque features onto a portrait and post the text "CAPITALIST" on the image? I mean.... using an anarchist to describe an accused socialist just totally makes no coherent sense whatsoever, no matter how you try to spin it.
     
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    I know I'm wasting my time here but all Anarchists are Socialists. There is much truth in the old saying "all Anarchists are Socialists but not all Socialists are Anarchists".This being a reference to authoritarian state socialism a la the USSR, I realise the USSR was anything but socialist but many others do not.
     
  20. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    So the Joker was a Socialist?
     
  21. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Really? Who?

    So let me get this straight: as the story goes, the guy who designed the picture isn't the biggest Obama fan, but he isn't his biggest enemy either. And he didn't put the word "socialism" under the picture; somebody else did that.

    In that context, the picture still doesn't make complete sense, but it makes more sense than it does with the word "socialism" under it.

    On the other hand, my in-kind response makes, I think, more sense. Except for the homicidal behavior, Sarah Palin is nearly as looney-tunes as the Joker.

    And the word I put underneath, "stupidism", is entirely apropos.

    I have to admit, I was surprised to see the picture you posted; apparently I'm not the only one who came up with the idea. (That, or someone copied it from me.)

    Another thing that surprised me, though I guess it shouldn't have, was that a quick search of the internet showed me that I hardly the first person to come up with the word "stupidism". Ah well.

    Here, BTW, is my version of the picture:

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  22. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    This may surprise some but "the Joker" is a fictional comic book character.
     
  23. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    If people are saying using the joker image on Obama with socialism underneath makes no sense as the joker was an anarchist, how in the world does using a joker image on Palin make any sense with stupidism?
     
  24. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    Oh, sure. And I suppose Darth Vader is fictional too. :rolleyes:
     

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