Tiananmen Massacre version 2.0

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Solomani, Sep 28, 2014.

  1. Solomani macrumors 68030

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    Kinda curious why the general US news media is downplaying the mass protests and arrests of the HK protesters. Even worse, POTUS doesn't mention a thing about it. Maybe everyone is still focused (understandably) on the ISIS crisis?

    Images coming out of Hong Kong clearly show massive protests, and equally massive deployment of Chinese state police to quell and subdue these protesters.

    I'm certain that hundreds have already been hospitalized (liberal use of mace, tear gas, truncheons, etc). I'm surprised the Mainland has not already sent in the heavy ordinance… the tanks to steamroll over the bodies and/or to convey terror upon the protesting civilians.

    I mean look at those pictures. It's reminiscent of what happened in Cairo and Damascus in the past couple of years. Rather than listen to or have dialogue with the protesters, the Authoritarians just double-down…. send in the riot police, possibly followed by tanks. Liberal use of tear gas, surround them in their own protest camps, etc. This will not end well for China.


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  2. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    maybe Obama is looking to arm those protesters as well :D
     
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    We can pay them back with bombs:eek:
     
  5. Solomani thread starter macrumors 68030

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    or maybe Obammy could promise to support the protesters with airstrikes too, hmm? :eek:
     
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    He could arm them & then turn around to bomb them:eek:
     
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    And we thought iPhone releases here were bad. :p

    I kid! I kid!

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  9. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Because they don't do that anymore.

    I do agree that China hasn't handled protests this year very well.
     
  10. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Well hopefully Hong Kong gets the democracy it was promised.
     
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    I hope it ends up in a change for the better, however, considering China's track record, I wouldn't hold my breath. The last thing the Chinese officials want is someone showing to the rest of the country that they can win against the almighty government. The protests will be crushed.
     
  12. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Actually quite the opposite.
     
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    i just watched a doc on the occupy movement, looked pretty similar to the pictures here.
     
  14. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    What, one protest looks similar to another protest...... Funny that :p

    With Hong Kong it will be difficult for the state to really crackdown on dissent in the way it would on the mainland. However I do get the distinct impression that oppression there has really calmed down a lot, even since I last visited.

    It'll be interesting to see if the other more liberal areas (like shanghai) follow suit.
     
  15. bradl macrumors 68040

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    I was actually going to say something about that. NPR has been reporting on this for at least the past two weeks, but it all came to a head this weekend.

    Turns out that they are running this in sort of a similar OWS style. People there are helping each other, picking up after themselves, handing out water/supplies, and are being rather peaceful about it. Those that are getting hit with tear gas or spray are given the incidentals required to clean themselves up, take themselves out of the front line, regroup, and are back at it.

    This comes from a reporter who was not only there, but 25 years ago was at Tiananmen and wrote a book about it at that time.

    However, 'massacre' is a bit sensationalized. To this moment, no-one has been killed in this incident.

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  16. zin macrumors 6502

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    An agreement was signed with the British that guaranteed 50 years of protected civil liberties and the right to peaceful protest. China has an obligation to respect the agreement and it is not right that they are trying to redefine the original meaning of it.

    Sadly I don't think David Cameron will do much more than release a few buzzwords. He is far too concerned with Chinese business deals than the rights of protesters in Hong Kong.
     
  17. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Macau has to be looking on at this with some anxiety, especially from all of the money it is bringing in, and wondering if they might be next. It already took the crown for Gambling Capital of the World away from Las Vegas.

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  18. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    In spite of the western media's reportage that the people of Hong Kong are struggling for a Pepsi/Coca Cola version of democracy,you'd be very surprised that most of these people are Socialists and are struggling for freedom for all and not the wage enslavement of the west.
    By the way this was true of Tiananmen as well.
     
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    Here's the scary thing: the People's Liberation Army ( 中国人民解放军) has a very large contingent of forces located in Guangdong Province right next to Hong Kong. They could be ordered to move into Hong Kong on fairly short notice and that will result in a Tiananmen Square-style massacre, unfortunately. :(
     
  20. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    How do you know that it will result in a Tiananmen square style massacre? Have you got a source in Beijing?

    It is much more likely they will merely be used to declare martial law as in Thailand, Egypt etc.
     
  21. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    Just to point out tinananmen square is not in hong kong, its in beijing.

    Mainland china and Hong Kong are very different.
     
  22. aerok macrumors 65816

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    and you can't compare the Chiense to the Hongkongese, very different culture and mentality.
     
  23. Liberty. macrumors 6502

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    Exactly, it's really one country, two systems.
     
  24. aerok macrumors 65816

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    Yeah it should never have been given to China, they were well enough to become their own nation.
     
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    I'm not sure but I thought that, the UK only leased Hong Kong Island from China on a 99 year lease.
     

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