I was considering getting a dual 2.0 G5 with the education discount. however, there seems to be a Rev B refurb 2.0 on apple's site. it is listed at $2099. http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...UIVEESg/126.96.36.199.188.8.131.52.184.108.40.206.220.127.116.11.3.5.0 I think it has the Gig E card added as well. the question is, how can something so new be refurbed already? I am a little skeptical that it may be messed up in some way that may cause problems in the future. I know it has a warranty, etc, but I dont want to inherit a problem child over saving $200. I want to add more ram, hard drive space, will apple do that with a refurb? appreciate any feedback. I also, dont want anything that is scratched up. I tend to try to keep everything in my studio looking new.. thanks again.