To Conservatives : Would you vote for Romney?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by johnee, Oct 21, 2007.

  1. johnee macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not conservative, but Romney thinks we are all idiots. From his failed Senate run in 94 to now, he has done a 180 degree turn around on abortion, similarities to Reagan, gay rights, and many other topics.

    I know many consider him a RINO (republican in name only) but if you are conservative, will you vote for him?
     
  2. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    I really hope I don't have to. Just about anyone is better than Hillary.

    On a side note, one of the Mormon tenents is that when their version of the End Times are upon us, a Mormon will be elected president.
     
  3. coffey7 macrumors 6502a

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    No,
    Since I might be the only conservative on this forum I will speak for them. We conservatives do not like Romney because he goes against party lines. He and Rudy are for gun control and other non republican ideas. I would rather vote for Obama(not Hillary ever) than a Rino.
     
  4. Stampyhead macrumors 68020

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    I'm conservative and Mormon as well, and I'm not sure yet if I would vote for him. Like you said, I dont know if I trust someone who suddenly and completely changes their ideas on major issues. From what I've seen so far I would probably lean more toward Fred Thompson. Really, though, I just want somebody, anybody, to beat Hillary.
     
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  6. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    So you'd rather someone like the current incumbent, or worse, than Hillary Clinton?
     
  7. coffey7 macrumors 6502a

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    Kind of like the "anyone but Bush campaign" but in reverse.
     
  8. Stampyhead macrumors 68020

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    Sorry I meant amongst those currently running the race. If we were going to have a Democrat president I would prefer it to be Obama than Hillary.
     
  9. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Sure, but Bush has a record as the incumbent... I'm not sure exactly what the basis of this hatred of Hillary Clinton is based on; perhaps you'd like to explain?
     
  10. coffey7 macrumors 6502a

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    When Bush was running the first time people were already saying anyone but Bush and calling him the next Hitler. If I was a new voter and I didn't have a party I would not like Hillary. She voted for the patriot act and the War then changed her mind on those later. Kind of a flip flop. I don't want to hijack this thread but us conservatives just don't want to see Bill and Hillary in the white house again. I think Obama would be a fine choice. He seems like a nice guy and a fine gentlemen.
     
  11. yg17 macrumors G5

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    I don't like Hillary all that much (although it won't be the end of the world if she wins) so I'm not really defending her, but I'd rather have someone who will admit their mistake and say they were wrong, like Hillary has, than someone who, even though they know what they did is wrong, refuses to admit that and won't man up to their mistakes.
     
  12. coffey7 macrumors 6502a

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    I think both parties need some fresh young faces. I would be happy to see 2 new people instead of the same old guard from both sides.
     
  13. kainjow Moderator emeritus

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    Romney is also very much against medical marijuana. That just shows that he is uneducated... or receiving donations from the pharmaceutical companies ;)
     
  14. nbs2 macrumors 68030

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    Not quite. The line/idea/whatever is that the Constitution will be hanging by a thread and that the church (or its members) will be a staff on which it shall lean in helping avoid the total destruction. The idea is not official doctrine, and even then has been phrased in such a way that political or military leadership are not foregone conclusions.

    Members of the church have long been encouraged to maintain a year's supply of foodstuffs in the home, and maintain their lives in financial order. The concern is to help keep the home and family stable, no matter the disaster - natural or manmade, spiritual or secular. Even the church as a whole seeks to abide by this concept - it seeks to maintain enough funds in reserve that all operations of the church could continue unabated even if no monies were received, and enough food in the storehouses that it could continues to supply the needy for that same length of time.

    So, while some may argue that Romney is the staff, others might say that Harry Reid has been a staff as the Constitution has been neglected under the current administration. Something many forget is that outside of the US where social norms are so varied, many members of the church are liberals (the UKers amongst us can comment on the politics of the SNP).

    Anyway, that was more than your comment addressed, so to get back on topic, my response is a simple "not really".

    WTF? That line invalidates everything you have said.
     
  15. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    Part of it is that we don't want Bill or any of their crony friends anywhere near the Whitehouse again. That includes the Ragin' Cajun, Sandy Burgler and the lot of them.

    The other part is her not so secret plan to move us ever closer to socialism while stoking the fires of class warfare (while passing herself and Bill off as over educated trailor trash to 1/2 America and light skinned minorities to the other half.)

    Other than that, they'd probably be nice people to watch a game with and tip back a couple beers.
     
  16. skunk macrumors G4

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    You must be speaking in some obscure Libertarian-type code, because I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about. Hillary Clinton a Socialist??? You crack me up.
     
  17. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    Sorry, I was just going on what my [ex-]Mormon fiancee had related to me. She hasn't been practicing nor active for a few years though. I'll ask her about it when she gets home from work tonight and see what else she has to say.
     
  18. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Didn't you hear? There's only republican and Socialist, there's no in between. You must not have gotten the memo. Maybe the evil, government run socialist postal service didn't get it to you.
     
  19. SMM macrumors 65816

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    BV - Back during Clinton's first-term, there was a decent group discussing issues concerning the new President. One item discussed was Hilairy. The panel noted that she was very much disliked by white American males. One commentator noted she is the type of person they fear the most; a strong, intelligent female, who does not backdown from anyone. She has a self-assurance, most recognize, and wish they also possessed.

    Personally, I think she would make a very good President. Everyone reading this should know the beating she will take from the right. It will be coming from all side, mostly lies and disinformation, and it will be relentless. Yet, she has the balloons to seek the challenge. That says a lot.
     
  20. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Sure does say a lot about American males, doesn't it?


    I've heard people say they wouldn't vote for Hillary because they think a woman can't be president and it's a mans job, regardless of whether or not they agree politically (although, I think most men who wouldn't vote for someone due to gender wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyways). Women leaders seem to be working well in Chile, New Zealand, Germany, Finland and a few other country. Kinda sad that people think that way.

    Frankly, I think my biggest beef with Hillary is we had 4 years of Bush, 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of another Bush, and possibly 8 years of another Clinton, possibly 28 years of the same 2 families running the country. I'd like to see some fresh faces in the white house.
     
  21. solvs macrumors 603

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    Nowhere close.

    Some of us have valid reasons (see below) but to be honest, most of us don't.

    While I don't want that either, you seem to be fine with Bush's incompetent cronies.

    What? Do you know anything about Hillary? She's far more hawkish that people think, her healthcare plan makes far too many compromises with the insurance and pharma companies, and while she wants to balance the budget, how she wants to do it is a whole nother ball of wax. Among other things. Do we really have to spell this out for you again?

    Who cares about that? I just want them to do a good job, whoever it is. This is why we keep getting the people we do, because we focus on such ridiculous things.

    When you're that far to the right, everyone else is left.

    Despite all evidence to the contrary.
     
  22. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    Hawkishness and socialism are not mutually exclusive.
     
  23. nbs2 macrumors 68030

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    Meh - it's ok. The discussion has, inevitably, devolved into one about Hillary and the political makeup of America. I don't think anything about Romney is even being noticed.
     
  24. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    He presented himself well in the debate over the weekend though. They all are positioning themselves as the best alternative to Hillary though. I guess it can't be helped.
     
  25. Stampyhead macrumors 68020

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    I have no problem at all with a woman being president. And I personally like strong intelligent females. I just have a bad feeling about Ms. Clinton and I can't quite pin down yet exactly what it is.
    I remember a few years back when Elizabeth Dole was on the Republican ticket. I would have voted for her.
     

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