To: Hillary -- Love, Colin

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  1. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:37AM,

    Dear Colin,
    I hope to catch up soon w you, but I have one pressing question which only you can answer! What were the restrictions on your use of your blackberry? Did you use it in your personal office? I've been told that the DSS
    personnel knew you had one and used it but no one fesses up to knowing how you used it! President Obama has struck a blow for berry addicts like us. I just have to figure out how to bring along the State Dept. Any
    and all advice is welcome.

    All the best to you and Alma, Hillary

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    From: Colin Powell
    To: Hillary Clinton hr15@att. blackberry. net
    Subject: Re: Question

    I didn't have a BlackBerry. What I did do was have a personal computer that was hooked up to a private phone line (sounds ancient.) So I could communicate with a wide range of friends directly without it going through the State Department servers. I even used it to do business with some foreign leaders and some of the senior folks in the Department on their personal email accounts. I did the same thing on the road in hotels.

    Now, the real issue had to do with PDAs, as we called them a few years ago before BlackBerry became a noun. And the issue was DS would not allow them into the secure spaces, especially up your way. When I asked why not they gave me all kinds of nonsense about how they gave out signals and could be read by spies, etc. Same reason they tried to keep mobile phones out of the suite. I had numerous meetings with them. We even opened one up for them to try to explain to me why it was more dangerous than say, a remote control for one of the many tvs in the suite. Or something embedded in my shoe heel. They never satisfied me and NSA/CIA wouldn't back off. So, we just went about our business and stopped asking. I had an ancient version of a PDA and used it. In general, the suite was so sealed that it is hard to get signals in or out wirelessly.

    However, there is a real danger. If it is public that you have a BlackBerry and it it government and you are using it, government or not, to do business, it may become an official record and subject to the law. Reading about the President's BB rules this morning, it sounds like it won't be as useful as it used to be. Be very careful. I got around it all by not saying much and not using systems that captured the data.

    You will find DS driving you crazy if you let them. They had Maddy tied up in knots. I refused to let them live in my house or build a place on my property. They found an empty garage half a block away. On weekends, I drove my beloved cars around town without them following me. I promised I would have a phone and not be gone more than an hour or two at Tysons or the hardware store. They hated it and asked me to sigh a letter relieving them of responsibility if I got whacked while doing that. I gladly did. Spontaneity was my security. They wanted to have two to three guys follow me around the building all the time. I said if they were doing their job guarding the place, they didn't need to follow me. I relented and let one guy follow me one full corridor behind just so they knew where I was if I was needed immediately. Their job is to keep you hermetically sealedup.

    Love, Colin

    http://democrats.oversight.house.go...uments/DOS-HOGR-09022016-000001 to 000003.pdf
     
  2. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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    Thank you for posting.
    1) I would open immediately an investigation on Mr. Powell. It seems that he wanted to sidestep the rules. He mentions that he had a computer setup to communicate through landline, so I wonder who did the job. DS IT, or some of his friends?

    2) He says that "However, there is a real danger. If it is public that you have a BlackBerry and it it government and you are using it, government or not, to do business, it may become an official record and subject to the law.". This would void HRC statement about her not knowing that she was breaking the rules.
     
  3. citizenzen thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I think he'd tell you that he can't recall ... he cannot recollect.
     
  4. zin macrumors 6502

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    Just saw this. Really unsure what that hack Elijah Cummings hopes to accomplish by releasing this. If anything it makes her look worse.
     
  5. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    I love seeing this. So candid. And now we have confirmation on where Hillary got the idea from. I knew she didn't come up with it on her own. She's smart, but not tech smart.
    I think it makes her look better by confirming what she said earlier...that she got the idea from Colin.
     
  6. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    to break the law?

    anyways
    [​IMG]
     
  7. ericgtr12 macrumors 6502a

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    "This is an outrage and I demand Congressional hearings immediately!"
    ~Not a single Republican
     
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  9. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    let's have them & put Powell in Jail, simple as that.
     
  10. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Let me explain it to you:

    No charges + no judge + no trial + no conviction = no law broken.
     
  11. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    lmfao, that is not true . you can break the law and still not get charged
     
  12. nebo1ss macrumors 68030

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    Instead of two bad candidates we now have three. In an interview yesterday Gary Johnson did not know what or where Allepo was. What a lack of knowledge of the world and one of the major issues America is dealing with right now.
     
  13. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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    Uh? This is so wrong.
    The law is broken by the ACT of the person.
    The charges, judging, and trial is just the prosecution of the act committed by that person.
    The conviction is just the final assessment by society on such ACT by the person.
     
  14. citizenzen thread starter macrumors 65816

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    o_O Why? Only in the minds of someone who already hates her.
     
  15. ericgtr12 macrumors 6502a

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    If she only had 3,500 pending lawsuits, 1 AG payoff, 4 bankruptcies and 3 marriages. Would that exonerate her?
     
  16. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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    By looking on how history is taught today I would say that we will be lucky if future leaders know the capital of their own state.
     
  17. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    You can *think* that all you want, but until it is proven in a court of law, our system still is one of innocent until proven guilty.
     
  18. webbuzz macrumors 65816

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    Try harder.
     
  19. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Nope. Innocent until proven guilty. Do people really not know the basic tenants of our legal system?
     
  20. ericgtr12 macrumors 6502a

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    That's the exact same wit and thought Trump puts into his equally compelling replies. Way to one up me!
     
  21. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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    You're confusing committing an illegal act with the conviction of the person.
    You can commit a murder, but if there is some legal issue that prevents prosecution, you are innocent yet you have broken the law.
     
  22. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    you obviously don't, Yax explained it rather well
     
  23. webbuzz macrumors 65816

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    Your post wasn't deserving of anything more.
     
  24. citizenzen thread starter macrumors 65816

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    But don't let that stop you Righties from believing.
     
  25. zin macrumors 6502

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    She said it was for convenience (it wasn't, there were multiple devices). This email looks more like a suggestion to keep quiet about the situation, otherwise she'd end up inviting unwanted attention from government security people concerning federal records.

    And boy did she keep quiet about it.
     

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