Toshiba SSD failed, anyway to tell if the replacement is also Toshiba?

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  1. Action macrumors member

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    The 128gb Toshiba SSD in my 2012 MBA failed this morning. I dropped it off at the Apple Store to get it replaced. I was wondering if it's possible to tell what brand the replacement SSD is based on the work order (otherwise, we'll see when I actually get it back):

    661-7297 - Card, Solid State Drive, 128 GB-SM

    Does that SM at the end mean Samsung? Or is it unrelated?
     
  2. flowrider macrumors 601

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    You really wont know until you get it back.

    Lou
     
  3. Binomio macrumors member

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    You got a Samsung drive, the SM means Samsung, TS is Toshiba.
     
  4. flowrider macrumors 601

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    ^^^^The SM was on the repair order. He doesn't have his machine back yet. Too soon to tell what drive her will be getting until he gets the machine back and checks.

    See this post from another member:

    Apparently Apple is only authorizing replacement drives of the same make and capacity. The firmware argument is just plain silly.

    Lou
     
  5. Action thread starter macrumors member

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    Got the Air back. The new drive is a Samsung. SM128E.
     
  6. flowrider macrumors 601

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    ^^^^Great!!!!!! You're one of the lucky ones, most of the replacements I have been reading about in these threads are replaced with the same crappy Toshiba/Sandforce unit.

    Lou
     
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  8. ToomeyND macrumors 6502

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    Might be picking up a pair of airs for the wife and myself. If they are to shiva (ipad correction for Toshiba, haha), should I try to bring them back within the 14 days? Keep rolling the dice in new ones?
     
  9. Weaselboy Moderator

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    If you are buying a new 2013 Air, they are not using the Toshiba drive being discussed here, so you should be in good shape.
     
  10. ToomeyND macrumors 6502

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    Awesome. Thank you for the response.
     
  11. Binomio macrumors member

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    Apple is indeed using Toshiba on the newer Air models (mid 2013), but it is less common. Samsung and SanDisk are very common.
     
  12. flowrider macrumors 601

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    ^^^^No Kidding:mad: I thought they had abandoned them. I have seen no posts here with anyone reporting that they have one.

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    I have never seen a post here or anywhere else from someone on a 2013 MBA with a Toshiba/Sandforce drive. Do you have a link to such a post?
     
  14. Numberless macrumors newbie

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    I'll make a new post just to convince you it's true :D

    I bought a new 2013 11-inch MacBook Air 2 days ago and it has a 256GB Toshiba SSD. The drive's name says, "APPLE SSD TS0256F." I don't see any reference to this drive other than on the Japanese 2ch, so I'm willing to bet it was introduced very recently (i.e. September). I'm not about to tear this thing open and look at the all-important controller being used, so I can't say for sure if it's using a Sandforce controller, though it's quite likely that it is. It looks like it can do about 700MB/s read and 500MB/s write, which is probably slower than the Samsung SSD's floating around, but not by much.
     

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  15. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    I hope somebody looks this one up soon as I would return that machine if I were you if Toshiba has continued to use Sandforce controllers.
     
  16. flowrider macrumors 601

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    ^^^^I googled it, and could only find Asian pages which I had translated. I THINK they said the dries had Samsung controllers with Toshiba SSDs.

    Lou
     
  17. Numberless macrumors newbie

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    Well that's good. That would make sense if the complaints people have been having actually made it to someone within Toshiba. I'll just assume it's true and buy AppleCare next year if I'm still not entirely convinced this computer will be with me for the long haul.
     
  18. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Thanks for the post. The failing Toshibas in the 2012s were all 128GB models, so hopefully these new 256GB 2013 models use a different controller.
     
  19. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    Most likely the 2013 Toshiba SSD's are using their in-house hybrid Toshiba/Marvell(thankfully not Sandforce!) controller as perusing through their latest SSD offerings are being powered by this controller.
     
  20. Binomio macrumors member

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    I work for an Apple authorized repair center. Toshiba SSDs are using a different controller than prev model.
     
  21. Gabichon macrumors member

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    Are you 100% sure about this? Can you tell which controller it has? I'm really worried.. I had the Sandisk on my first Air but it had display issues.. Now on the new one I have the 128GB Toshiba :/.
     
  22. Miltz macrumors 6502

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    When did you buy it? You have to open it up and tell us what chipset it's using. This is the first time I'm hearing or seeing a Toshiba SSD in a 2013 Macbook Air. The good news is that Toshiba is using a Marvell Controller for is PCIe SSD drives that I've seen. Good Luck, and OPEN HER UP!
     
  23. coldjeanzzz macrumors 6502a

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    When my 2012 MBA inevitably fails due to having that piece of **** Toshiba SSD, I'm going to tell them to make sure I don't get the same one on the replacement or I'll expect a brand new MBA the next time it fails.
     
  24. peterson12 macrumors member

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    Well you will need to understand the fact that it is an issue with hardware compatibility between Toshiba & Apple. It is very much obvious that the same sandforce controllers with other OEMs are not faulty!
     
  25. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Welcome back. We have missed all your posts telling us how there is never anything wrong with Sandforce products.
     

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