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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by rdowns, Nov 6, 2013.
And the hospital sent him the bill.
Well that stinks.
That whole incident sounds like a load of crap.
Jokes aside, that story is horrifying.
If the police had a reasonable suspicion the guy had a thermonuclear bomb up his rear end, it would hardly come close to justifying the invasion of the plaintiffs privacy, person, and dignity. I think this case proves everything you ever want to know about the definition of "unreasonable" in "unreasonable search and seizure."
I hope the police department, the guilty cops, and the doctor and medical center get slapped with a judgement in the tens of millions. And have to pay it.
Something something penetration.
Ya this story does deeply impact the victims rights.
You would think that after the 10th test that the man was not hiding anything.
If this story is true, every single doctor and cop who was involved in this should do 20+ years in prison just like any other rapist, and after parole be added to the sex offender registry.
Sounds good to me.
Okay, I ain't making a pit stop in the People Republic of Deming for my next road trip through New Mexico.
Butt clenching is enough probable cause to get a search warrant? Really? Just when you thought you've heard it all, seen it all...
He was probably trying to keep a fart from escaping, because he heard a West Virgina man got arrested for farting in front of a cop.
I'd add the judge that signed that warrant to the list. That didn't sound like probably cause to me.
I do hope he's suing
I'm willing to bet literally everything I own that he will lawyer up soon enough. If he hasn't already.
No more running stop signs for me.
What is the problem?!?
The police followed protocol, they got a warrant from a judge for the cavity search. I guess if you are going to get a full body cavity search it is better to have a doctor do it at a hospital then the local PD. Getting the bill from the hospital is pretty messed up.
I watched the entire video on it. If everything was reported accurately, they couldn't have followed protocol. According to the reporting, the first hospital refused to perform the requested procedures. I'm not whether it's even legal for them to perform some of those if the person refuses, but it's mentioned in the video that the hospital that performed the testing is outside of the jurisdiction of the issued warrant. It was in another county. As for the hospital, they have to bill someone, but I wonder how that will go. He is being billed for what is likely several thousand dollars worth of testing. The video claimed that the officers ordered a colonoscopy as the final test. There have been similar cases posted on here where officers didn't go by protocol, even with their own cameras running.
Let me get this straight. You think giving guns to the blind is necessary to protect your freedoms but that this is AOK?
Yes, as long as the law is followed.
However I guess we will find out when this case is over.
My guess is this will be settled out of court with large sums of money and no admittance of guilt.
I can imagine the response Officer Ben Dover is getting from his fellow officers.
Likely has had his locker filled with some new toys since this has hit the news.
I was going to post this yesterday but didn't have the time. Two things.....
1) What happened to this man is rape.
2) We are living in a police state where those in authority do what ever they want and get away with it.
The Young Turks's take on this story.
How is this Rape?
There wasn't anything even remotely sexual about it. If you want to walk this path that means you are going to have to charge a doctor and/or nurse with rape and the police as an accessory. Not to mention setting legal precedents for every cavity search as a possible sexual assault/rape.
Been to Deming? Not a particularly pleasant place. 30 miles from the border, which is the one place the US has been invaded by a foreign army, the whole area is crawling with skittish Border Patrol.
Obviously not any excuse for the cops to be (ahem) excretory orifices, but one should at least understand why they go off.
What is the problem? Are you ****ing serious?
Why am I not surprised that you think rape is about sex.
Agree with iMike - this is rape.
People standing around in uniforms or doctor's robes doesn't change that in my view.
So I guess you won't have a problem with it if it ever happens to you during a routine traffic stop?
I would like an explanation of "he clinched his buttocks" . Seems a little to "out there".