Trump administration to announce final bump stock ban

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  1. lostngone macrumors 65816

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    A decent start. Wonder who outpaid the NRA.
     
  4. Carnegie macrumors 6502a

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    This rule will likely be invalidated. It’s in pretty clear conflict with the law it purports to enforce.
     
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    Hope it is invalidated
     
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    I suspect the administration expects it to be invalidated.
     
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    Hard to say , trump is not that friendly to the 2nd
     
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    I’m not suggesting that President Trump doesn’t want to ban bump stocks. I’m suggesting that the administration knows that it can’t do so this way. I suspect that President Trump has been told that by legal advisors. The law is pretty clear in this case. So the administration does it anyway and he thinks he can get credit for trying to do something even if he, likely, knows he can’t do what he tried.
     
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    Problem is he’s pissing people off who support him and getting praise from those who will NEVER vote for him. Dumb move on his part
     
  10. lostngone thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I wonder if there will be a buy up? Good luck if they just expect people just turn in or destroy property they legally purchased.

    However this is exactly what the anti-gun folks want. Overnight it will turn legal gun owners into criminals.
     
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    Good job trump. This will now put an end to all gun violence :rolleyes:
     
  12. lostngone thread starter macrumors 65816

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    All it’s going to take now is for someone to hear you “rapid fireing“ and the police will have “probable cause” to get a search warrant for your property for a illegal bump stock.
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    A decent start to what exactly?
     
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    Under the proposed rule, people who have covered devices would have to turn them in, destroy them, or otherwise render them inoperable. And no, the rule doesn’t contemplate them being reimbursed for their devices.
     
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    So many unfortunate boating accidents coming in the near future.
     
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    There are going to be so many boating accidents they’re going to have to pass a new constitutional amendment that bans firearms on anything that floats!
     
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    You are only a criminal if you get caught;)
     
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    Yeah, are the Feds going to pay people full price to come over and take away their bump stocks? In the history of forever, a bump stock has been used once in a mass shooting (or a crime) as far as I know.

    People bought these legally and they are their personal property. The user is still pulling the trigger every time it fires, but the user is pulling the firearm forward against a steady finger to activate the trigger, instead of using a finger to pull the trigger towards the rear.

    I've gone through a 12 month wait for permission from the BATFE to buy my short barrel rifles and suppressors, with the pleasure of paying a $200 tax stamp for each of them after the lengthy wait.

    Are the feds going to make/let people register them as "machine guns" and go through the 12 month wait and $200 tax stamp each time, or will they haul the bump stocks away and destroy personal property?

    There's likely to be something unconstitutional here, depending on how they approach it.
     
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    I would be stocking up on bumpstocks, but I don't want to encourage spay and pray.

    Each bullet matters, you need to make sure it finds a nice home, before you pull the trigger.
     
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    It ended up being the GOP to enforce a gun control measure. Interesting. If the courts invalidate it, it isn't the end. It's a stain, tarnish, whatever you wish to use on this Administration and the current GOP. It'll be ammo for whomever the Libs get for 2020, provided they're not very old or so out of touch with middle America.

    In the end, voters barely recall policy and often won't vote for it. They'll vote for the candidate. Trump and Clinton were very corporate. But Trump knew how to turn on the charm by being like who was around him. Clinton somehow forgot she came from a very average, middle class family. Which is why she never bothered with middle America or blue-collar regions as much as Trump.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm certain this will tarnish whatever legacy this administration will have. Just hang it next to the other couple dozen tarnishing events.
     
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    meh.....it's a feel-good law mainly directed at people who aren't familiar with firearms. means nothing for anyone interested in rapid firing a rifle.
     
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    Let me start by saying I am a conservative and I strongly support the 2nd...

    There needs to be a middle ground but the problem is neither side of the argument will budge a speck in either direction... I have no problem waiting 30 days to get a gun I want to purchase and I have no problem with magazine capacity limits.

    What I won't go for is banning any type of semi automatic weapon for a law abiding citizen who can pass a background check.
     
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    You wouldn't agree. As far as I'm concerned, that's a rhetorical question.
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    Great, so nobody should be upset then. That's not what I'm seeing in this thread but whatever.
     
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    The moments I agree with a Trump administration move are rare, but this is one. Good for them.
     
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    I thought this was going to be about some shady stock market practice of bumping stocks to artificially inflate their value being banned.
     

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