Trump and Putin lets make the world great again.

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  1. steve knight macrumors 68020

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  2. edk99 macrumors 6502a

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    Looks like a photoshop job to me. That shadow at the top seems suspicious.
     
  3. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Did you click on the link to read the story?
     
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    but it can't be real
     
  6. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a

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    Because Russia hacked our election. Duuuuh./sarcasm
     
  7. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    Where else would it be?

    (Don't say wasteland)
     
  8. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    As someone who works in the business, everything is a photoshop job.
     
  9. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Certainly a good idea, isn't it? What's wrong with a great world?

    Trouble is, it can't happen. The US already has an oncoming recession baked in, even if Her Nibs had won. World wide, there's many and many a problem, or Caterpillar wouldn't have had 47 months of falling sales. Other indicators of trouble include the Baltic Dry Index.

    Write a book: "Greatness Delayed".
     
  10. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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    what's the point of this post?
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    Dnaletsaw!
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    Oh it's real. So?
     
  11. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    It advertises for some Serbian median outlet. (in4s. net)
     
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    I'm guessing that there must be multiple billboards in the same city? The image backgrounds don't match up at all, even though the lovely shadow on the top does :p
     
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    http://www.in4s.net/in4s-bilbord-podrske-putinu-trampu-ucinimo-svijet-velikim-zajedno/

    They don't like NATO very much, viewing it as the instrument of neoliberalism,atlanticism, yada yada yada.
     
  14. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Don't like NATO? Such audacity! How crass of Russia to put their border right next to our NATO bases! Why in the world would they worry about our war games adjacent to their border?
     
  15. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    Here's a (obnoxiously) pro-Russian source crowing that Russia is responding in kind to NATO advances.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/heres-...natos-latest-troop-buildup-its-border/ri13722

    The russian response?

    So, either Russian troops are puny and weak against the might of crack NATO troops, or the Russians believe that it's important to have the capability to invade recalcitrant countries, regardless of what defenses those countries dare to erect.
     
  16. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Why do you think Russia would bother to invade any other country? They've been gaining by trade and commerce quite well in this recent past, and continue to do so now, even in the face of Obama's sanctions and war-mongering. Note that the Russian military actions are in response to outside threats, not initial threats themselves.

    OTOH, the US is not showing any economic gain by our unending warfare--only gigantic losses of tax dollars.
     
  17. Cox Orange, Nov 21, 2016
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    Russia circulates all sorts of false statements. Lately I heard a "Reichsbürger"* on a Radio-Discussion (a German on German radio) that it was a fact, that everybody knew, that Merkel is planning to invade Russia with 30.000 soldiers.

    Not that it is nonsense per se anyway, but why, even IF one planned to invade Russia, would they only come with 30.000? These populist idiots are so stupid it pops one's own head off listening to them.

    * note: the "Reichsbürger" are a group of nationalists ranging from conspiracy theory guys over comradship members to full grown Nazis, that believe, that the German Federal Republic doesn't exist and that the German state in its boarders from arround the Kaiser-times in the late 19th centuary is the legal Germany. They believe that the GFR is a construct by the western allies that won the war and a colony. Some of them also believe that there will come a time when "Reichsflugscheiben" (literally Reichs-"fliying-discs") from Aldebaran will come back and take Germany back. They elect their own Reichs-chancellor and are structured like a club/society and make their own fantasy passports. They also don't accept authorities. (Lately a Reichsbürger shot one policeman dead and wounded four, when they were coming to get his 31 rifles. He had a gun license, but acted unresponsibly several times, which is why he lost the license.). Needless to say that they are fans of Russia and see russia today and russian sources as true news media.
     
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    Odds are that the Reichbergers have about as many members as we have KKK idiots. Sure, be aware of the existence of the weirdly types, but don't give them credence or any sort of influential status. Might's well cite Holocaust deniers as a useful source of information.
     
  19. Cox Orange, Nov 21, 2016
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    Because they did in Ukraine and Crimea. Putin first said the soldiers with russian uniforms are ukrainians that buy the uniforms in tourist shops, then later he said that these are soldiers on their vacation, than another month later he admitted that it were really russian soldiers he sent (bragging to show his people that he is the boss and at the same time sticking the finger to the west "you can say what yu want. I can do everytjing and no one will stp me and everyone will believe me." - He did this finger sticking after the US election, too. It was rumored that he had interacted with the Trump camp. Afterwards Russia published an official statement that said they had "contact t the Tump campaign team". - while the latter can just mean anything, something simple and harmless like "we just talked about what a policy of getting together could look with an eventual Trump presidency" what diplomats usually do... in another manner though. It might mean something simple like that, but it also says "haha, look, you said we were rigging the election and no one believed you, but we did and truth and facts can do nothing against it. We can do what we want." and leaving room for speculation is something well done here, too.

    Why other countries? Well, I am thinking of these small areas that seperated from russia, that had been fought over in the past.
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    Probably, but with more and more people in other groups (PEGIDA for example) and a party (the AfD) relying on them as voters (they get 12% in forecasts) it seems a risk to society and credibility of anything. They can create an atmosphere that soaks up otherwise modestly thinking persons and make them doubt everything.
    But yes, they are probably not as big as a problem as Front National in France.
     
  20. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Trouble is, Russia did not invade Crimea. The vast majority of those in residence are Russian. Given a choice, they voted overwhelmingly to join Russia. It's one of those "democratic" things, okay? Such voting was alright in the Balkans, so why not in Crimea?

    Ukraine and Crimea are parts of "old" Russia. Kiev was once the Russian capital.

    Granted, the USSR stole part of Ukraine from Poland. But Russia is not the USSR.

    The mess in Ukraine stems directly from the US efforts ($5 billion worth of our tax money) to suborn an elected government, replacing it with a strongly neo-Nazi influenced junta. Just another of Hillary's "successes". Had Russia actually invaded, it would already be over and done with, a fait accompli.
     
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    I hear this is real

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  22. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    Ethnic Russians constitute a majority in Crimea largely because Stalin deported Tatars, and imported Soviet Russians. It's eerily similar to the situation in the Balkans, where various populations were ethnically cleansed.

    The Russian government has designated various instrumentalities of Tatar self-determination as "terrorist" groups.
     
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    The horse is a shop, the original has them riding a bear.
     

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