Trump authorizes Military to shoot at migrants who throw rocks

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    Many things haven’t happened. But it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be prepared for it. Why do you think a 2nd or 3rd 9/11 hasn’t happened so far??
     
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    You don't go to Leavenworth for refusing to follow an illegal order.
     
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    If you are standing next to the commanding General and the CIC .... at minimum you would get a DD.

    Officer or Enlisted?

    btw, true. But you get my point.
     
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    The military has sharpshooters don't they? They might not employ snipers around the border but they should have a few sharpshooters around. They can pick off the gunmen (hint: they're the ones holding a gun in an unarmed crowd). That would have the additional effect of dispersing the crowd PDQ. No way would a sensible CO order the grunts to open up on a mostly unarmed crowd; a violation of the Geneva Convention, also crime against humanity and a war crime.

    If I were a grunt and my CO orders me to open up on a crowd of civilians, I would tell him to "smeg off, Sir." I would not obey an illegal and immoral order.
     
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    You job as a soldier, is to protect POTUS, even if the mob doesn’t have rocks. You and POTUS can be killed with bare hands.

    Are you honestly going to let the president die, just because he was killed by bare hands??
     
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    You just posted two CENTRIST corporate news networks. Go back to my post to note the distinction I made and how you did exactly what I described.
     
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    And yet we still have thousands of immigrants approaching our boarder. It's real and it exists.
     
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    Or they can use none lethal gas to brake up the crowd........
     
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    Over the border?
     
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    Sure.... or would it be better to use snipers??
     
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    In what world would POTUS be on the front lines.

    No one went there. You're the only one who is suggesting this. You went straight to it. Stop projecting ;)
     
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    Except nobody said that. He said to treat rocks as rifles.

    "They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back," he said. "We'll consider, and I told them consider it a rifle."
     
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    There is absolutely no need to use force on asylum seekers.
     
  14. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    US soldiers are forbidden by law to take part in law enforcement activities, such as immigrant detainment.
     
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    It doesn't matter if its POTUS. It could be your parents who happen to be reporters and US Citizens. Would you let your parents and other reporters die??
     
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    M82A3 and take out all vehicles.
    Should create a pause or two. :cool:
     
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    Who’s going to kill them?
     
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    Are you sure??? Are you willing to put your freedom on the line if you are wrong??
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    The mob with rocks.
     
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    You know, some of us live here in reality instead of conjuring up scenarios to play Rambo in.
     
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    Again, you are so far out of any reasonable scenario. What is your point?
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    Yes.
     
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    Does your reality includes; keyboard jockeys, hiding behind keyboards, arguing blindly and not doing anything to change the world, because that's all they are good for??
     
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    I'm not afraid of people trying to escape the military coups and economic collapses my own country played a hand in. Why are these people so fear inducing to you?
     
  23. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    Regarding treating rocks as rifles.

    "They [the military] know that violates the rules of engagement, the law of land warfare & the values those in the military believe. It would be an unlawful order," Gen. Mark Hertling, who served almost four decades in the US Army, said on Twitter.
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    Gen. Michael Hayden, a former director of the CIA and NSA, agreed, tweeting that "now lieutenants are forced to tell their troops, pay no attention to the Commander in Chief."

    "Every company and battalion commander will look his lieutenants in the eye and say “I don’t give a **** about what you thought you heard on TV. You will do what you were trained to do and ONLY what you were trained to do," Hayden added in a follow-up tweet.
     
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    If asylum seekers end up causing the violence, I would not call them asylum seekers, as it's a bit ironic as that's what there are supposedly running from.


     
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    1. Because reporters are allowed to be on front line and your job might be to protect them at some point. So you need to know what to do.

    2. Look up Posse Comitatus Act.
     

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