Trump bizarrely links Cruz’s father to JFK assassin; Cruz goes ballistic

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You can't make this stuff up, folks.

“I mean what was he doing -- what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death, before the shooting?” Trump said. “It’s horrible.”

That led Cruz to unload on Trump in a press conference, saying he is “amoral” and a “pathological liar.”

“I’m going to do something I haven’t done for the entire campaign: I’m going to tell you what I really think of Donald Trump,” he said. “This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies, practically every word that comes out of his mouth.”

More: USA Today
Just so I have this straight, the father of the Zodiac killer was part of the JFK assassination?

Meanwhile, Democrats are like...

 

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There seriously is not enough popcorn in the world for this election.

Donald Trump is insane. A true National Enquirer candidate. And Republicans are gullible enough to fall for the act. Nothing Cruz said this afternoon is incorrect. It's all true. And yet, these voters who say they recoil at and don't like the things Trump says still will vote for him anyway. That's just stupid. Cruz is right...a President sets the tone and culture of a country. Do Trump supporters really want their kids talking about where women bleed from, and making allegations about people that aren't true? Really?
 
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Trump says a lot of bizarre things and Ted Cruz doesn't look or say a lot of things that are likable.
It'd be nice if presidential candidates were kept off of TV and everyone just voted on political philosophy and specific issues instead.
 

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I love that CNN is playing back to back videos of Cruz and Trump saying they were "friends", that they liked each other, that they have a "bromance" contrasted with the things they have been saying today. Makes them both look so petty, so insincere and like the same ol' crappy politicians we've had before.

I really hope both parties start fronting better candidates, but especially the Republican Party which has become such a joke of it's former self. I seriously have to ask how anyone can still support it and the crazy candidates that come out of it. Michele Bachmann? 999 Becky Stan Stan pizza guy? Dr. McStabby? Trump? Cruz? Seriously?
 

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For those of overseas, time to go back to the strategy of calling ourselves Canadian that we abandoned after Dubya.
 

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Do you know what I find most disturbing about this story?

The fact that Donald Trump gets his news from the National Enquirer.


That, all by itself, ought to give people pause about Trump. Because there really is no other source for that allegation.

Do you really think that tabloid newspapers are the sort of source that a potential Chief Executive of the United States should rely on when making decisions and speeches?
 

MadeTheSwitch

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Do you really think that tabloid newspapers are the sort of source that a potential Chief Executive of the United States should rely on when making decisions and speeches?
Only if the top priority of the nation is finding Bigfoot and the aliens from Roswell.
 

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Photos they are showing show similarities but inconclusive without face recognition tech and photos from Cruz's past to compare.
Good luck with getting any photos, Father Rafael Cruz's fuzzy history conflicts with Cuban peers in Cuba. Some claim that Rafael Buenito's SS # is from a Rafael Buenito Cruz that died in the 1980's. A book claims papa Cruz's claimed history is completely made up..

It is known that Cruz immigrated from Cuba to Canada and worked in the oil related business - connected to Bush. That particular oil company also existed in Cuba and was alleged to be a CIA front.

It has also been reported that Rafael Cruz was in New Orleans the same time Oswald was there when he was passing around fliers.


The New York Times also had an article on the conflicts of Rafael's Cruz's claimed history. According to the feds, the only man not recognized with Lee Harvey Oswald, is the man the Enquirer claims is Cruz.

Could be a better story than bigfoot.. but I belive the Cruz family are definitely alien reptilians..

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/us/politics/cuban-peers-dispute-ted-cruzs-fathers-story-of-fighting-for-castro.html?_r=0

http://www.amazon.com/Liar-Cruz-Fire-Exposing-Political/dp/1514830523
 

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Cruz did not go ballistic. He responded with a calm speech, saying stuff about trump that he should have said a long time ago. Trump's camp called it a melt down and was not presidential. Which proved one of cruz's points, that trump accuses other people of doing things that he does. If he only left the two horrible jokes that bombed, it would have been a perfect response.
 

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I don't know how anybody can seriously think Donald Trump is fit to be the Republican nominee - let alone President. And this story just illustrates his utter lack of qualification.

Either Trump actually believes this story is true - casting serious doubts on his ability to weigh the accuracy and reliability of his sources of information. Or he doesn't - and is cynically repeating a bogus and scurrilous story in hopes of winning a few more votes in an upcoming Primary.

In either case, its the behavior of a psychopath. The sort of person who will do and say anything to get what he wants.

We cannot have that sort of person in the Oval Office. We cannot.
 

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There seriously is not enough popcorn in the world for this election.

Donald Trump is insane. A true National Enquirer candidate. And Republicans are gullible enough to fall for the act. Nothing Cruz said this afternoon is incorrect. It's all true. And yet, these voters who say they recoil at and don't like the things Trump says still will vote for him anyway. That's just stupid. Cruz is right...a President sets the tone and culture of a country. Do Trump supporters really want their kids talking about where women bleed from, and making allegations about people that aren't true? Really?
Here's a question that might be worthy of its own thread:

The Bernie people don't want to vote for Hillary, many openly admitting as much - despite the claimed stakes involved for this election and afterward.

Polls have suggested Democratic turnout has been lackluster while GOP involvement has been surprisingly high.

Some people have claimed Candidate Sanders could have been a lot harder on Candidate Clinton. Yet hasn't.

Being primaries, outlandish and silly sling and fling attacks from one another isn't uncommon. Trump wins over people because he's managed to speak to them a little more often, showing the epitome of having what are called "soft skills" and I am beginning to understand why.

Nobody knows if Bernie is going to run as an independent should he not win the Democratic nomination. Even if he did not run as an independent--

Supposition: The Democrats have nothing "in the bag" come November. As a write-in candidate, the inclusion of Bernie and Candidate Trump have been most atypical. Trump could easily win, every politician invariably flip-flops so people are going to focus more on the bigger issues where some consistency is there, and depending on the issue they all qualify.

I'd go so far to opine that Trump could, under a few circumstances, actually be a shoe-in. Thanks especially to Candidate Cruz' choice of VP, which was not expected by anybody.

Like I've said before, the debates that the nominated candidates will be in are going to be interesting to watch and I predict a large turnout of viewers will be tuning in. At least on the GOP side.
 

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Even if this was 100% true, Trump should have said nothing. it sounds so crazy that it makes him look retarded. I have been trying to rationalize that Trump will not be that bad, but come on, he must have have some mental disorder. Just keep your mouth shut sometimes!!!
 

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I don't know how anybody can seriously think Donald Trump is fit to be the Republican nominee - let alone President. And this story just illustrates his utter lack of qualification.

Either Trump actually believes this story is true - casting serious doubts on his ability to weigh the accuracy and reliability of his sources of information. Or he doesn't - and is cynically repeating a bogus and scurrilous story in hopes of winning a few more votes in an upcoming Primary.

In either case, its the behavior of a psychopath. The sort of person who will do and say anything to get what he wants.

We cannot have that sort of person in the Oval Office. We cannot.
For decades, more people keep saying "Why does anybody want to run for public office?", making cracks about them all being psychopaths, and so on. If that's true, then why do people not believe what they said?

Besides, Trump is still leagues better than Reagan and all of the things he had happen. He should have been impeached for incompetence if he couldn't remember so much about the situation (Iran Contra), for which his engagement and involvement is far worse and more real life than any of Trump's talk so far.

And, again, primaries vs nominated candidates' debates.

And, for years, people being tired of "Washington insiders" yet are now scared that an outsider is running at the same time they seem to be angry over all the other candidates, who are all insiders. Even Sanders, since he (an insider with an interest in outsiders) not been able to get the insiders around him to agree with him, he must be bad "just because" he's not been insider enough to get things done. And, yes, Clinton - she is an insider but has gotten a lot of good things done. She has learned from experience and "fessing up" and apologizing when it's appropriate. And her list of accomplishments makes her a very viable candidate, but "we don't want insiders that can't get anything done" now becomes "we don't want insiders that got things done despite huge opposition gripe". But "we don't want insiders" so we'll vote for an outsider despite not wanting outsiders because we're too busy saying they won't get anything done. Are you confused? I am...

And yes, Trump is an outsider. He might have lobbyists to get influence for his businesses, but that is not the same as actually running the country - which has a lot more at stake than slips of paper with imaginary value on them.
 
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I'd go so far to opine that Trump could, under a few circumstances, actually be a shoe-in.
Then we will lose our standing in the world and be a bigger joke than we were even under Dubya.

People are very stupid if they buy what Trump is selling. It's all smoke and mirrors. He's a liar, stuck on himself, a bully, has issues with women, doesn't know a thing about diplomacy, will likely get us in a trade war and screw up our economy and who knows what real wars he will get us in. Why would anyone want to vote for someone that relies on the National Enquirer as a news source? Just because he wants to build a wall? Bring back jobs, when he doesn't even make his OWN ties here? It's insane.
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Besides, Trump is still leagues better than Reagan and all of the things he had happen.
It's impossible to make that claim when one of those two has yet to have an administration with undoubtly it's own set of scandals. Trump was in the casino business for crying out loud. You deal with some awfully shady characters in that business. From what I have heard, NY real estate isn't much different.
 
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