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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by darksithpro, Oct 13, 2018.
To Democrats, be careful for what you wish for, and be reminded on whose to blame....
He, like me and many others, very badly overestimated the intelligence of the American electorate. We thought that people could not possibly be foolish enough to vote for Trump. To our everlasting chagrine, we were wrong.
I think the ones that voted for him are to blame. They elected him through the electorate. If you want to talk about some idea that Dems made him run - you'd also be mistaken given Trumps history and desire to run as early as the 80s.
But yeah - keep blaming the Dems.
“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” ― George Carlin
The dichotomy of Republicans winning and the Nation losing.
To be fair the news coverage up to the 2016 election was pretty shocking.
Treating Clinton and Trump as equivalently bad was awful. Though to be fair that benefitted the Democratic Party before when comparing against George W Bush who was objectively pretty clean.
Blame Trump all you want too, call Trump voters stupid, the problem lays with Congress and politicians in swing voting states and districts.
Last I checked Trump approval rating was about 35% higher than Congress.
Congress is charged with crafting the laws, but no one wants to give the other side an inch of what they want, or what it would take to get the bill passed.
What we are left with is a hopeless impasse on issues that need to be resolved. We allow Congress to run on the same issues over and over, or to just run against a President that is not up for election.
Meanwhile, we are left with a lot of bad law, some of them are just downright unenforceable.
The President is largely a figurehead, Congress is where the sausage is made.
Come on. John Oliver isn’t the problem. If you wanted to really drive the point home one would think you’d cite the “pied piper” strategy from the Clinton campaign/DNC (which were one in the same). Those emails are real, and they point to the ignorance of the campaign in honestly believing if Trump became the nominee it was a slam dunk for Clinton.
A very strong point.
That's exactly what I was saying in 2008 and 2012 about the American voters voting for Obama. It's so ironic!
But voting for McCain and Romney would have been brilliant?
I just do not understand this type of thinking. You may have objected to Obama's policy positions, but it wasn't rational to think that he was totally incompetent and corrupt. I also understand how people might agree with Trump's policy positions, but, even if you do, it isn't rational to think that he is competent and not corrupt. Before you even get to policy, basic leadership capability is the initial bar. Obama obviously passed that bar, Trump does not.
I think I kind of do. Obama bowed to other world leaders, like some kind of lawn jockey. He was not as intent upon busting other leaders' heads as he should have been. He was too much of a wimp. And, omg, Solyndra!
Are you calling the one in the video stupid? Or Trump voters?